They were called , short whippers , around here , I had some on the allotment a few years ago , and to watch them fly was some sight , they seem to clear fences and hedgerows at 100 mph with an inch to spare , they had a few lads ducking for cover while digging their spuds lol , The last time a had a couple after much searching I found an old boy who apparently sold a few to a club in wigan , The birds were killed by cats and when I tried to get replacements , unfortunatly the old fella had passed away , I have never been able o trace the club in wigan , maybe some of the lads on here can help