Ken ,I walked away from the argument ,please don't think that's in any way a capitulation or agreement with your logic that I bit myself on the arse .I don't see the point in going on for pages saying ,I think your wrong jumping on me with your ,Ah gotcha ,moment ,.and you replying with your view ,..I think you are out of order accusing me of hypocrisy ,you obviously think different or you wouldn't have done it ,by all means reply to this post but don't expect me to get into some tiresome 10 pager that will inevitably lead to harsh words being typed .