jukel123
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Orwell was referring to a normal individual's right to own a weapon. Not the drug crazed,the vioelent criminal or the child psycho with a grudge.
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Born your breathtaking arrogance knows no bounds! Firstly you quote Orwell to me. Believe me I am more familiar with Orwell's writings than you. Secondly, you threaten me with your alleged towering intellectual superiority with regard to gun laws.I remain unafraid. Good night.
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Born you appear to have aligned yourself with the alt right. I did not suggest you were that mad. However, let's run with that. You do have sympathy with the crazy Americans who defend their gun laws.Even though thousands of innocent yanks are killed and maimed annually for an ideal: the freedom to bear arms. I think the freedom to walk down the street and go to school without being shot is a far greater freedom. You say smokers are bullied by non smokers. I say shite, look at the nosedive heart attack rates have experienced since the new legislation. Look at the projected number of lives
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The new law has brought the issue into the public domain and pushed the refresh button. I would be bluffing if I pretended to be familiar with 60 odd laws. Whatever the difference between this new law and the old laws are..I am all for it even if only one person benefits from it.
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I believe in the greatest good for the greatest amount of people. I don't care if the 'alt right bleat' about individual freedom. Whether it's gun laws, tobacco laws, laws against hammering children and partners, health and safety at work, I'm all for those laws. ( Although not the hunting laws.) I live in the real world, and am not impressed by academic arguments criticising the "nanny state" . I'm all for free school meals, proper NHS provision, social housing, laws to protect against usurers and bad landlords, laws to protect children seeing porn or protecting them from junk food advertisi
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People moaned loud and hard about the smoking laws. It's been a fantastic piece of people friendly legislation. Same with laws preventing the smacking of children. There were always those who said "it's nothing to do with the state what I do to my children in my own home". But slowly behaviour has changed for the better. Laws should sometimes be welcomed, this new piece of legislation is a step in the right direction.
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EXACTLY! And eventually it will impact on people's behaviour.
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Born, behave! "Domestic abuse most commonly against men". Rearrange this sentence so it makes sense." Must I talk not bollocks"
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Sometimes when new laws are passed they have good unintended consequences. For example, You rarely if ever see a stressed parent knocking feck out of their toddler in a shopping centre nowadays. Because somehow, perhaps by peer pressure, and the law, the parent knows that is unacceptable in modern society. The smoking laws were brilliant. Nobody now would light up in the same room as children or smoke in a car with children, again more because of peer pressure than anything else. Few people allow their dogs to crap in public places, a few years ago many people did. Again it's a mixture of law
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I remember years ago taking a woman I knew, a neighbour, to a women's refuge. She had two kids with her. I ran her to the refuge and began to help her inside the door of the refuge. The manageress pointed to a sign on the door. It read: "No men beyond this point". Made me feel weird to be considered part of the problem, one of the enemy so to speak . Some of those women lived in absolute fear of leaving the refuge because their men would be waiting for them outside. f****n horrendous. I'm out of this thread, going to walk my dogs.
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Jesus Christ. Give me 5 mins with the b*****d.
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"Premonitions of a dystopian regime". It's no "premonition" it's here, 2018.
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I am not being abusive or controlling. I am simply asking a question. I think to draw on personal experience is relevant in a debate like this. Domestic violence is something you never ever forget. I'm nearly 70 and still get flashbacks and nightmares from my experiences as a kid. Plenty of others are in the same boat. Controlling behaviour is sometimes obvious but often insidious. I remember our whole family being on edge as soon as my dad walked in the door. In fact I think his criticism and evil moods were worse than the actual violence. Seriously, bruises can heal but never ending criticis
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Have you ever experienced or witnessed domestic abuse in any of its forms?
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BH I think you are making light of a huge problem. Controlling behaviour is not just being occasionally critical or cruel. It's a method of destroying another human being. Slowly drip by drip over time. It's mostly perpetrated by men but as your example shows also by women. If some evil creep can be stopped before his behaviour escalates to violence then I welcome the new law. Check out the stats below. https://www.refuge.org.uk/our-work/forms-of-violence-and-abuse/domestic-violence/domestic-violence-the-facts/
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Pity the tories are closing down Women' refuges. These refuges are really needed. The one place where women can be safe from violent/abusive partners. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-changes-domestic-violence-refuge-11606629
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Been a long time Ray. Most of the lads on here will never have heard of the great Wolves players like John Richards, Steve Bull, Derek Dougan,Kenny Hibbet and Billy Wright.Plenty more as well.Will be intersting to see how they get on.
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Looks like he has learned to keep it shut at last. Thank feck and good for him. The media slaughtered him, he was like a lamb to the slaughter. He seems to have been given some good advice to keep his mouth shut and just be a boxer.
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Another way,popular amongst the rich,is to visit a Thirld World country and ear and drink local food and drink. Pretty soon you get a serious stomach bug and shite yourself thin. Seriously,it's all the rage..absolutely foolproof.
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Do you think Klopp will park the bus? If so where? Might be safe at Old Trafford..hmm.maybe not.
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Anybody watch it? I enjoyed it. BBC spent £16 million producing it. Not sure it's a good use of our money but nevertheless it was different from the usual dross they serve up. You should be able to get it on iplayer...8 episodes.
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I've never bought this crap about health and safety being for softies. It's generally some fat arsed management/penpusher who comes out with crap like that.But it's not the likes of them that has to suffer when accidents happen. They just try to cover it up and hire the next mug who will take a risk.
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WTF? Nutcases really have taken over the asylum. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/09/germany-chico-dog-that-killed-owners-petition-hanover
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How did you get on today WR?
