I got him before I new the game,I was nieave and made a mistake the dogs was 12 months old and was catching rabbits and that's what I wanted, but I have run him 3 years and he does good for me now Iv got his recall good and put a lot of time in with him, he puts 110% on a day time but he just lacks the stamina and is a little heavy. He runs day but never catches. If I new then what I no now I wouldnt have got him. But I don't do the tackle he bread for and a good pal of mine does and I no he looks after his dogs and his kennels are better than my house.