It might be a bold statment, but it true, maybe if there was working dogmen doing the judging I would not have said what I did, but it all a pals act with these shows the last few years. same winners judged by same judges their pals , all going home with rosetts thinking they have some thing special, nothing but show dog never seeing a hard days hunting, just check who is running the shows, who is winning the shows, who is judging the show, all the same group of people, it is fixxed...