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In this price range I would choose any one of these: Vortex Diamondback 4-12x40 AO Hawke Eclipse 30 6-24x50 SF Delta Optical Titanium 6-24x42 AO

I only touched it on shows and didnt have the chance to compare it with Premier or S&B PM II. However my first impressions were I would still probably choose Premier in this 5-25x class as the best scope.

Can you specify the price range? It will be easier to recommend a scope if this in known.

Can you reference this please, perhaps I missed it but I see no mention of this on the Zeiss website for the Victory! Zeiss is stating that on their Victory HT this shift is so small over entire magnification range (1.5-6x, 2.5-10x, 3-12x). I got this information when I was on educational course at Zeiss and they are very proud on this, since only a few other manufacturers are achieving similarly small shift in their scopes. Swarovski on their course for partners doesn't even mention this matter. Regarding the web-pages I haven't seen this information anywhere either.

In SFP scopes it happens always!!! Build quality and good engineering however are the key factors that this sift is small.

Zeiss is stating that on their Victory HT this shift is so small over entire magnification range (1.5-6x, 2.5-10x, 3-12x). Others do not state this info but just say that this shift of POI is small.

This happens on all SFP (second focal plane scopes). POI changes with magnification change. However with the best SFP scopes (Zeiss Victory HT, Swarovski Z6, Kahles Helia 5, Leica Magnus...) this shift is normally less than 1cm/100m. On cheaper scopes however this shift is much bigger.

FFP has the following attributes: +: - it doesn't move with magnification change so the bullet impact point stays the same all the time - reticle subtensions stay the same at all magnifications, so you use them for bullet drop compensation or range estimating - the construction of FFP scopes is more robust - for hunting in low light you can adjust magnification in a way that the reticle gets thicker and you can see it -: - on high zoom scope the reticle can be too thin on low magnification and to thick on high magnification - illumination on FFP reticle is rarely day usab

I would be choosing between Optilock and MAKuick.

Docter is the "original" Carl Zeiss in Jena After the WWII some of the people and equipment was moved by the Americans from Jena to West Germany and since the there were 2 Zeiss Companies. By the London agreement in 1971 they had to use the following names: Carl Zeiss West Germany and Carl Zeiss Jena. Before that both Companies used Carl Zeiss name. In 1989 Carl Zeiss Jena was the biggest producer of sport optics in the world with more than 400000 pieces produced in that year. Afterwards Eastern block collapsed and Carl Zeiss West Germany achieved that only they can use the name Carl

Are you sure about Japanese glass??? I would say that optically they are on the same level as Nikon Monarch 3 and bellow reall Japanese scope in this price range (Sightron, Weaver tactical, Bushnell Elite Tactical...)

Swarovski, Zeiss, S&B, Leica, Kahles... dont produce Mounts

I would add to this list (Swaro, Zeiss, Docter, S&: Kaps, Kahles, Leica, Nickel, Premier Reticles, Nightforce and even in this list I would exclude Zeiss Conquest and Zeiss Duralyt series.

Definitely choose Sightron. It has much better glass and tracking.

Having owned the Swarovision's and still the Zeiss my optimism is based on usage and nothing else but we all have differing eyesight therefore opinion. The Frontier ED provides performance across the board including low light as good as the Swaro's, that is a fact to me having viewed them for months side by side in all instances. The Ultravid I thought were some way behind the Swaro's. I also tested all of these scopes (and others) and have only written my opinion.