Mr King in my reply I said I took him every where with me never said worked , even when with other dogs like that night he's good stays close always watching I can put the lamp any part of a field and he'll be there anticipating that there's something there , I'm not the type to drag a dog round a field forcing it to chase and miss cos it's petrified that it's going too get a kicking when it gets back , also I said creeping I'm sure if it was running he'd of left it which he did about ten mins beforehand, I'm sure my mate will add something if he feels like it , as that was the first time he'd