my bitch is about 8, and i was looking for another dog, and the last litter went really well, so i thought id have another pup off her then ive got the dogs i want, and bracken for 16 months old has proved me hes worth his weight in all aspects, so hopefully young pip will do me well, you wouldnt be able to tell the bitch has had pups to look at her, shes back to her fit self and is already out working again, thanks