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Everything posted by graham01
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Althought i wouldnt tell anyone to get a Gos as a first bird without an experienced Falconer to help,neither would i suggest a Harris.I started with,like many my age and older a Kestrel,and again i wouldnt suggest one of these as P/R Kestrels weights can be tricky to manage.A Redtail or Common Buzzard would be my choice as they will both teach you respect for a BOP (and thier feet!),they will teach you good weight management and husbandry.Harrises are too easy IMO Jasper that bow is a corker lol,i had one for my female Buzzard you could have limbo'd underneath it was mate from blue water pi
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This is my point Ross,imagine all those lads who lost harrises getting Goses as there first bird either a countryside full of lost Goses or more likely bins full of dead goses.Id rather put one lad off who just might make it than encourage 20 dickheads who dont know a hawks arse from its elbow.Ive said all along mate i dont think your wrong regaurding getting a Gos,if you have a ggod head on your shoulders but how do you distinguish on here the good from the bad?.You got your Gos off Keith because he knew you were a good lad who had what it takes.We dont have that luxury on here mate. goo
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i agree, but for every f****d up gos for sale there are twice as many harris hawks lost its all down to the person and how much actual knowledge they have and how much land and time they have on there hands to fly a gos. look at my brother,the first bop he seen was mine and keith gave him his imprint franie to fly which the brother manned,done the initail traing and flew him successfully with me giving him a few pointers along the way and me being a beginner myself. it can be done with someone who has a good head on there shoulders and knowing the basic,s as my brother proved This is
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dont forget hte harris hawk. i seen my mates female bag more than 2 goses on a few occasions. and they wernt muggins either. but for flying feather then it has to be mugged for the harris and redtail imo. i liked nothing mre than flying ducks with my gos last year. for that kind of sport ya need a gos imho. Your mentor was Keith Barker wasnt he? theres the difference in you having a Gos as a first bird and this guy,you had someone guiding you through it all:victory: yes he was but your wrong in that keith guided me through it all. he mentored me for a season when i had no bir
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dont forget hte harris hawk. i seen my mates female bag more than 2 goses on a few occasions. and they wernt muggins either. but for flying feather then it has to be mugged for the harris and redtail imo. i liked nothing mre than flying ducks with my gos last year. for that kind of sport ya need a gos imho. Your mentor was Keith Barker wasnt he? theres the difference in you having a Gos as a first bird and this guy,you had someone guiding you through it all:victory:
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Mate,like Jasper said,with a sensible head or the right mentor that has good experience,there is no reason why you couldnt have a Gos BUT you cannot take advice from Harrishawkers about Goshawks! The only bit i will disagree with that Jasper posted is weight management experience.Most Harrishawkers weight management is lax at best, woefull at worst,Harris fly at so many different weights that an idiot could get them to fly free(and there are thousands to prove that)Goses,well almost anything else really, have a very tight hunting weight range and will be easily lost if not adhered to.If none o
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VERY!.You can get away with flying a Harris on a weekend,you will never get anywere flying a Falcon flying it less than 4 times a week,idealy six.The weight management is far mor crucial as is your telemetry skill,if hunting it you will track your falcon weekly if pursuit hawking and for a good few miles lol.You need far more land for Falcons also,we are talking thousands of acres.Training is pretty straight forward,more difficult with a Gamehawk and a more expensive passtime.
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Flying free now mate,check out my other thread http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/topic/162330-afew-video-clips-of-our-perexgytrsaker/
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Many thanks to Alan (trappa)for lending us a pigeon trap yesterday,hes a top bloke
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Crows and Gulls for me,ill be interested to see if you can catch a Magpie with a Kestrel! ive caught a few various with an imprint Kes but ive never heard of anyone catching anything bigger than a grey partridge with one and that was flown in a cast with a lannerette.Good luck matey ,keep us updated. Cheers mate will do. ive heard of a few taking magies but only a few but i will try my best.is that with your new bird looks a great bird. bring on the season and good luck. Atb Matt Yeah,its with our PerexGyr/Saker,slow going with this one
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Crows and Gulls for me,ill be interested to see if you can catch a Magpie with a Kestrel! ive caught a few various with an imprint Kes but ive never heard of anyone catching anything bigger than a grey partridge with one and that was flown in a cast with a lannerette.Good luck matey ,keep us updated.
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Cracking shots Jay ,Im sat looking at this PerexG/S wishing the training away lol.
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When accidents happen its really tragic,when someone causes the death of a bird through their own mismanagment its even more tragic.To tether a Hawk/Falcon/Owl in an area were it can reach a vunerable bird is just unacceptable in my book.
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Some pics of her now she is home with us
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My advice about forum land is trust no one, % are just full of shit,spouting what they have read in books or regurgatating other peoples threads and knowledge.Find someone who will let you tag along,prefrebly someone who has flown more than a Harris and learn from them.Ive read so much stuff on forums from guys who sound the bollocks and when you meet them ,they aint .Some exellent Falconers out there and if im honest i do trust a few ive never met but ill know someone who does know them.The amount of people who comer on forums saying "hi there,im interested in getting into Hawks so im here t
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Falcons will easily take anything in front of them off the fist if trained to do it,but generally will not follow into cover and you cant fly,say a female Peregrine in enclosed countryside,you need open space with fewer trees.People fly hawks at game because of the countryside they fly in IE. lightly wooded terrain,were it would be impossible to fly a falcon without losing it.Its all about style of flight really,Hawks being more usefull in enclosed or wooded areas and falcons better in open spaces,horses for courses.
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Any of game birds would cost alot. Why do people prefer short wings to long wings? A lot depends on the land you have ,you really need a lot of space to fly long wings at their best. You can fly short and broad wings on much smaller areas. You have to choose your bird according to the land you have, hence a lot of folk fly hawks out of necessity. I prefer short and broad wings because I get closer to the action,in long wing falconry the action seems a bit remote to me. Although I first flew Goshawks I really enjoy flying Harris hawks, they suit the land I fly and I really like the relat
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Comming on very nicely! its the one on the far left
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come on!
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I was told Ben Potter flew a high percentage Gyr/Saker and ran a pair of Salukis at Brown Hare very successfully.
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Unfortunately you dont.
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Andy Smith at High Cayton Falcons in Yorkshire breeds some whoppers.He has a bog standard pair or Harrises,in fact the male is pretty small and scrawney but they throw tiny males and enourmous females every year!,he had a few being creche reared while i was thier two weeks ago.The Females fly at about 2.9 to 2.10! they are £450 i think
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Mark loves him and still does,he killed all and sundry with him as well,in fact more so.Has loved chasing pigeons from day one with each owner and no one has stopped him,he killed gulls while on tip but also other "things" and this has stayed with him up to now.I actually enjoyed flying him if im honest but he was far to set in his ways.I actually started getting him to stoop pheasant before selling him and he knocked a couple of hens out of the air but lost them on the ground,he did chase cocks also,these were spotted with bins and flushed while he waited on(in no style as im no game hawker w
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?????? There are things you cant put on an open forum,ecpescially when they kill lets just say things they not supposed to.The mistake i made with this hawk was taking him on in the first place against a few better falconers judgements.He liked killing things that were not acceptable to me or Mick,and we were in danger of losing permission over it so he had to go.You can limit check to a point, but not when a hawk will fly 1/2 mile over a field of crows to kill a much loved prey item.I hope this has clarrified things for you in the politest manor i can muster.
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A very good Gull and Crow hawker who breeds them described them as Pere/Sakers with rockets up their arses!
