Exact right. With the crosses I have especially our 50/50 crosses, we use them for barn work, brushing or back up in a sense by theirselves if they are DA and if not turn 3,4 or more terriers loose in a old barn/ country stead. We use them for above ground action, we have coons and game that is plentiful and the occassion dickhead coyote who thinks he can take advantage of our small terriers. Once the 1/4 bulldog into 3/4 ground terriers, the size shrinks quite a bit, getting an slightly above size terrier being 17-25lbs, tons of mouth with looks more to the patterdale side than bulldog for us