Thanks everyone for the posts very helpfull, I have two other 4month old grey x collie x bull pups aswell and shes always down at the dog crying to get out at them she loves getting out with them 2 to play and shes very lively, When i put her out the back on her own and i go out she is a bit warey but if shes with the pups she grand and will come straight up to you no bother she wont eat of anyones hand but my hand which at the start she would not even eat atall ! When i walk her she usally has her tail between her legs but if i let the lead out as much as i can her tail comes out and she do