No i'm not gonna fill you with any bullshit irrelevant with the problem i've got, How do i become across as clueless? I'm discussing a general topic on a general thread... And heartless aye its been said. I never mentioned scared i said hides or squirms like i was going to say ' No bad girl' not lick her 7 shades all over the house. The problem i've got is its a newly decorated flat and shes using the toilet regularly outside, but she still has pisses over the top. Maybe its as simple as giving her less water but on a thread of 'hunters and dog men' not one mans suggested that