Cheers Paul sound like your well happy, I've spoke to mike and I like what he had to say about the dogs I havnt had a whippet before as I don't like the look of the roachey backed frail looking types but like I say mikes look better put together and could handle more work , I've currently got a second genaration collie greyhound out of typp ratchers arry and my pals bitch, but I'm really fancying a whippet or whippet cross as all I do is rabbiting so think it would be a good choice, what's the price of mikes pups if you don't mind me asking, cheers adam