good topic tc, my opinion is we can train the pup in mannerism, obedience, stock breaking and the quarry its to hunt/kill, give it a good diet,bed and exersize and by breeding certain types for certain quarry helps. i also believe its down to confidence in the we dog and building its confidence by keeping it winning in its early apprenticship gives it self belief as it matures. but we can only give it the tools for the job then its down to the dog as to wether it can see the job through. i believe its down to the amount of heart in the dog to get going when the going gets tough. bit like when