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dog dragging its arse
Rainmaker replied to martync1967's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
Feeding raw meaty bones will help keep the glands in good order as the crap comes out in a more appropriate form. By that I mean raw feeding doesn't lead to the soft mushy stools you get with most commercial foods, and as a consequence the well-worked glands don't end up becoming backed up. That's right, raw to the rescue again! I really should get a signature banner made... I'd still worm it to be safe, and if you're concerned see a vet. Oh and if you have a go at expressing the glands... watch the angle you're staring at its arse form. The juice really can come flying out in your face... :s -
So in other words a raw food diet or, as I was actually referring to in this case, Orijen dry food, will suffice for the OP's needs and his pups will do fine on it with some exercise. I really don't get your continuing references to 'the raw police' and 'raw is the cure to all ills'. Most on here feed raw, because they realise its proven benefits (and conversely the immense proven harm that commercial food does). Simple as that. All I'm saying is that if he feeds a high quality diet without loads of crap in it, the dogs condition will improve. Dogs fed on very high carb foods (some commer
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Good complete dry food
Rainmaker replied to rabbit man's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
No offence but Redmills and the like are full of crap, check the ingredients! :sick: Barking Heads isn't bad but is still only 30% meat and 70% "other stuff". Their 55% meat claim isn't accurate as it includes FRESH meat, the water from which is removed during processing - the manufacturer has apologised and confirmed this to me in writing. Personally I'd feed raw (look through this section of the forum, I'm not typing it all out again ). But if you really want to feed dry regardless, then Orijen is about the best of the bunch as someone said above. It's made from 70% meat and bones, 30% -
Personally I like to keep pups lean (not skinny), but each to their own. I just thought it was worth mentioning that dogs fed a high protein, moderate to high fat diet that's low in carbohydrates tend to lose fat and 'tone up' quite naturally. Because protein is either used in muscle building and/or repair, or else excreted (i.e. it's not stored as fat) the dogs fed such a diet - which is their naturally intended one - lose the excess flab all those previous carbs had put onto their frames, allowing them to "tighten up" and become of a much firmer, leaner muscle mass. Because you're not f
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Offal and tape worms
Rainmaker replied to cumbrian-whippet's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
Also bear in mind that while it's not something to place your complete reliance in, it's still quite frequently reported that dogs fed wholly on raw food tend to exhibit a stronger resistance to parasites, and/or don't suffer as much detriment from them as those fed commercial foods. That's all anecdotal evidence though, as it's not something big business is bothered about researching for obvious reasons. As above, either freeze the rabbit for a bit, or just worm with Drontal or Milbemax (rotate them if you can) four times a year or so. Cheap as chips. -
do i need a food change?
Rainmaker replied to ellir0305's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
You'll not get any stick off me lad, as above I offered you some reasonable advice, as did some others in this thread. When it comes to raw feeding (barf is a commercial term for minced veggie concoctions btw, don't confuse the two) about 2% to 3% of an adult dog's bodyweight in food a day is reasonable. For pups, feed 3% of their expected ADULT weight in raw meaty bones, offal etc a day. Giant breeds tend to have slower metabolisms, especially being lazy as most are, and only need around 1.5% of their bodyweight a day. So for a 20KG dog, 20000x0.03 = 600g a day, and so on. -
A fair point and it's true we can argue until the cows come home - as we have done before now. However, the fact remains that despite your article there is no proof in the assertion it makes that dogs were fed carbohydrate in the past, let alone selected for the ability to utilise them, which brings the rest of the article into question. Carbohydrates would not simply have been the 'lowest value' food for a community, I'd imagine it was all pretty damn precious and even today we can see that less industrialised societies certainly don't waste their produce, let alone start cooking carbs/g
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When the OP states they're wanting to feed tripe and are having no luck, my advice will be suitably geared. Especially in a dog with allergies. Raw's not the answer to all, but neither is feeding a bowl full of poisonous crap proven umpteen times over to destroy your dogs from the inside out, especially when the dog eating it is already full of allergies - again strongly linked to the rubbish in the commercial foods. By saying that offering a good feed means a dog won't starve itself you're just building a straw man. Back in the real world how many dogs turn their nose up, be it at raw fo
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Just in case you didn't believe the above, I'll add a big fat "+1" to this. SCAM, pure and simple. It never ceases to amaze me how people fall for this stuff... some bloke from Nigeria offers you almost twice what you're asking, and you give him the benefit of the doubt? :doh:Cancel the transaction, inform PayPal and don't reply to the scum, you'll only get burned mate. Live and learn.
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Alright mate? Welcome on board. Sorry to hear about the pups, but how do you mean you've lost them through feeding chicken?
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do i need a food change?
Rainmaker replied to ellir0305's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
I find it very hard to believe raw is more expensive than feeding kibble. Even from a supermarket, you can still feed 100% raw for less than a lot of dry foods. Get your yellow pages out, and start looking for Poultry Wholesalers, Abattoirs, Butchers, Wholesale Caterers and all those types of places. Ring them all and see what the craic is, and you'll soon find suppliers even in (especially in?) rural areas. Places like that, and butchers, have to PAY to have their waste products and bones taken away. You're doing them a favour and not many refuse someone lightening their load for free! F -
Swallowing things whole
Rainmaker replied to bullmastiff's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
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I can't advise much on the nails/conformation/gait side too well, but it sounds like he's on grass exercise for a while. As for the diet, don't give up. Raw will do him the world of good, a great many dogs with 'allergies' and 'dodgy guts' find their problems disappear once they're on a proper raw food diet. Just ban his commercial junk food and have done with it. A healthy (as in not severely ill) dog will never starve itself to death, he'll eat the good stuff and realise what he's missing sooner or later... Dogs can become conditioned to (and even addicted to) commercial food, especially th
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Swallowing things whole
Rainmaker replied to bullmastiff's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
Don't worry mate, pet food manufacturers have been propagating the 'bones are dangerous' myth for a long while now. Despite the fact that raw food (whole raw carcasses and raw meaty bones) is a dogs' natural diet, the bone myth has pretty much become ingrained in the national psyche to the extent of forming accepted 'fact'. "Why feed such' dangerous' things when we can buy safe, 100% complete and balanced nutrition in a bag?"... No wonder so many people are afraid of feeding raw, especially bones, in that case. Unfortunately the commercial foods are anything but 'safe', the whole 100% complete -
It looks like you can't mate. Though it'd be good to hear it from the horse's mouth.
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Be wary of artificial calcium supplements, you can inadvertently do a great deal of harm with them. You (the OP) asked about meat specifically, but bear in mind that meat alone is high in phosphorous and virtual absent of calcium. You'll need to feed raw meaty BONES, or preferably whole carcasses. These have a balanced calcium : phosphorous ratio, and are also packed with chondroitin and MSM (as well as everything else a growing puppy needs). You don't need to add anything, just feed as much of a variety of animal types (lamb, pork, beef, fish, chicken, turkey, rabbit, venison, etc etc) as you
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The Hill study showed that the lower cab diet led to faster times, yes. The faster times were produced by a diet that still had carbs present; also correct. As far as I can gather though there was no nil carb diet in the study for comparison, but following the trend it would have been interesting to see how much faster, if at all, the dogs became when the carbs were not lowered, but eliminated entirely. 'The faster times were obtained while still eating carbs' isn't really an argument, since the less carbs they ate the better they performed. I definitely agree a more comprehensive methodology
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Swallowing things whole
Rainmaker replied to bullmastiff's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
go till your chinnesse cant spell lol and as them for thestuff they dont use that what l do and the butchers for the cuts off is that for yourself or the dogs Well seeing as you're already there, and all that... Talking of swallowing things whole. My bloody terrier pup decided to pulverise and eat half of his 12" plastic feeding bowl today. Numpty. I hope he's shatting plastic for a week... but please god don't let any get stuck Metal feeding bowls from now on, me thinks. -
rainmaker you know nothing about me so i think this why some mods don't like some members so never judge he book by the cover!!!! sounder Way to miss the point and basically confirm what the other guy was saying mate. so members can abuse mod's and we have to still like them , ok them i love ye all:kiss: anyway we stick to the topic, sounder For the record (rest of the forum, not Sounder), that's not what I was getting at and this has been resolved via PM. No offence intended, I was actually sticking up for the mods. By all means have fun guys, but don't take the pee and exp
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rainmaker you know nothing about me so i think this why some mods don't like some members so never judge he book by the cover!!!! sounder Way to miss the point and basically confirm what the other guy was saying mate.
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Not me mate, I really am a complete and utter cock all of the time. You make a mean collar though :kiss:
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Well I'm not banned and I know for a fact that Simoman is an out bender, Sounder is a gimp, and StrongStuff is actually 4'3" and 4 stone wet through but he does like his 'dogging'. :clapper:The point I'm making is that I never lick anyone's chocolate star and I have my opinions! Check out my long 'rants' in the nutrition section if you like Happen there's a difference between having a laugh, or putting across your 'argument' cogently and calmly, and just being a tit? That or they just hate you. Who knows? The site doesn't run on fresh air, and banned or not you came back and it seems the
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Pork's fine mate, and raw whole trotters are bob on especially at the price. My dogs love them. Pork is actually, on average, fattier than lamb and great for putting condition onto dogs.
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i need a good butcher TRIPE!!
Rainmaker replied to ebony1's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
All of those foods you listed, bar the dry food, are "nearly all" water (%) too mate, and dogs can get worms from rabbits a hell of a lot easier than from frozen green tripe. Does that mean they're all equally rubbish? Tripe's not a bad food, and is very high in protein and fat (virtually 50:50). Definitely a good part of a 'balanced diet' (I don't get how "needs to be part of a balanced diet" is a bad thing?). Unlike a tin of pedigree chum, or most dry foods come to that, tripe isn't full of useless (harmful) grains, byproducts, and nasty chemicals. If it's frozen green tripe you won't n