Thanks every one, may be worth my while as little dog went down the other night, just a quick walk as you do don't take any thing with you and the other half rings little ones started to be sick, come off phone, can see two but not little one. Tie other terrier up so I can hear and listen down each hole. The one I fine is a three holer, so used camera phone to take picture down hole so arms lenght down hole I get a gglims of her arse. No spade, getting dark, mates house nr by he's at pub so it was using a stick and hands, luckily sandy groud and I got 3ft down and shed gone further down. Now