i was out today with my pups out of my first x and tiger and my nephew was out with his pup aswell, the nephew got a slip for his pup at least yards ran it brillant and killed it, i brought out the black and tan pup got a slip in a rushy field for her she turned him inside out but lost it, i was also talking to louth tiger he said that his brother johnny brought out louth tigers pup today he ran 2 and killed 2 he said he is 1 of the best young dogs he has seen in a long time, so happy days with these pups they are shapeing up to be good 1s