Well said toasty the shoe was a disgrace the judges wernt picking the dogs the stewarts were they were talking to the judges all the time the trouphys were pure shit worse than s irwins and that's saying a lot it's the worse show I have ever bin too and I won't be back next year they treat the terrier people with judges that could not pick there nose ok the dog that won was the best on the day and the guy does work them I no I have seen them work as for the rest well other than the workin class winner the rest will niver see a hole in there life the gilford mob don't even have to buy the troup