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  1. Glyn.....
    you want something making i'll make you one again they are not cheap
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    i think its proves how careful everyone has to be... shows are bollocks keep your working dogs at home, if you want a day out take the un-entered, unless you know people or you can check them out no studs, bred pups for people you know the background on, if you only know 4 people you can trust and the bitch has 6 do the maths ... this so called Mark walsh set alarm ringing with the silly claims about the amount of game he was taking with a hardish looking terrier and his insecure bullshit about fighting the hard fellas i know don't talk they do when they have to, careful when these fuckers cud
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    No never lol he tried ass licking for a pup for a while just kept telling him no i don't sell and i only breed for mates he gave up, at the same time coming out with bullshit about a beat up dog being worked 500 times, the dog must of healed well over night he asked if i would to see it work ....good old interweb a few emails and a mate for life lol
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    dillydog he tried the same with me dropped your name and a south wales terriermans fairly often just as well i trust no f****r
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    put a print in i'll sign personalize and post it
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    Barrie you should write more of it down before you start forgetting it Excellent reading on a Sunday morning thanks for sharing it Barrie regards Glyn
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    no i haven't changed my mine, hell of a lot of those rock dogs where crap for digging and hell of a lot where doubled up to work a fox it was when the black dogs where breed and worked in Yorkshire they became famed
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    North wales may have had a greater impact on the foundation stock than many think, F.Buck hunted often with packs in north wales and bought and sold terriers, i was told he bought a few almost black and a red fawn from the ynysfor hunt area, maybe when Mr Breay said he thought the line originated wales, it may not of been tongue in cheek was many thought! who knows how long the trade of working terriers has gone on for some very dark looking welsh terriers April 1901
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    its all a matter of opinion i saw wave after wave of terriers come to north wales from the lakes,the book sure helped the peddlers sell the now in fashion Fell Terrier many of the lines in the fell terrier book where plan shit ok if worked in pairs, some Cowen, Richardson and Parkin stuff i saw where great terriers, then the blacks started coming from Yorkshire and the midlands wow now they where the digging dogs and the rest is history
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    its a nice book ...missing Brightmoor , Gould , Stacy and many other who where in the forefront of turning the rock dogs in to digging dogs ... i think the book is a classic work that all should read
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    Someone must know? Staff 001a.jpg Staff Smooth Black 001a.jpg Patterdale? i think if these two dogs were photographed next to each other you would see a huge difference in type, its all about perspective and not just the perspective from camera use but from the viewer , also the black dog may have seen some work before that photo was taken and as we all know a few rat bites can make the head look swollen some what enlarged
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    a edited version of the F.Buck interview published on the net in the USA Frank Buck’s first terrier came to him from his father, a gypsy who had kept his own type of terrier for many years – a line which Frank eventually carried on. Incidentally, Frank’s father bred the famous dog Red Ike, a dog that would take a hold of anything and once fastened on to a deer, which it eventually brought down. John Park says that Mr. Breay told him that at that time no one had a strain of terriers apart from Frank and the six Fell packs who each had their own localized strain and of course, Frank carried f
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    there is a great interview written about Frank Buck in earthdog running dog, its well worth a read, and i'm not saying there is no bull blood in them, i'm saying that if there is a hint of bull it pre-dates the Staff , and those who are bull blood mad added more at a much later date and those lines are well documented not some great mystery
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    your probably right but to say they are all cross up bull blood isn't right
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    no plummer said that bradleys rip was the ancestor of the breay/buck type they denied it
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    i made the post because you seem to be dismissing the blood lines that many of us have terriers bred down from as fictitious, and that these bloodline came from dogs bred since the 70-80s and that the black/brown strong terriers now called patterdales are bull crosses, as i have stated the lines with bull blood added are fairly well documented, but not all lines have this blood, although you have made some sweeping statements implying that these bloodlines are all bullshit i've bred a few with heavy heads and jaws but there is no staff in them just a few of your quotes I think everyo
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    bought TCW just for this photo a black terrier , with Mr C.Breay ... i think it disproves they where simply a bull x
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    Honestly mate, this subject has been done to death! There will be several long and debated Threads on this Site about the merits and negatives. Shamo, I believe you are right, as long as there are people willing to muddy the waters then the Patterdale story will continue. Sure what harm if the romantic story of the ancient (1970) Fell strains (smooth tight black coats with bully heads) that never were known in the Patterdale area by the men that lived there persist. That it is nearly impossible to see a photo of anyone before 1960 with these bully headed black smooth worki
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    I don’t think the bull blood in the patterdales is just from staff and the lines which have had staff added are fairly well documented, I think a lot of the bull blood in the northern terriers was mixed a long time before there was any such thing as a staff, patterdale Lakeland border or bedlington and so on and just as now people selected as they breed them, and for the ones breed to work they also had to go through that selection, from the 18th century on most lines carried pit-bull blood if a breeder started to select for strong heads smooth/ broken coats that’s type becomes more common wi
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    a Joe Bowman terrier with a bit of bull in it , and the early fellxborders and bull with early nuttall line terriers, fellxbull they say was in the type from the beginning, the bullterrier used would not be the pile of shit you see walked around these days
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    i think the Cheshire pit was the one put in to the sealyham terrier, the story as i was told it with the Nuttall dogs was Brian's Grandfather mated small pits 25lb or less on to his border/lakie types Brian then carried on the line
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    britain at one time had many types of pitdog /bull terrier , even in west midlands there wasn't any one type until 1935 with kc reg, and weather the likes of Breay and Buck added some will always be debated , but what is for sure was the Nuttall terriers do carry lines back to small pit dogs from Lancaster, these were not staffs but a local type, Brian will tell you the bitches he took to Kipper and later Rusty carried lines back to these small pits
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    so you would mate a good dog on to a poor bitch to improve your terriers ?
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    Good Post ...Yes this whole use a dog to improve the bitches pups is bollocks, if the bitch isn't as good as the dog why breed from her !!
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