think you lot want to think before you speak, brian nuttall has forgotten more about terriers than most of you will ever know! five minutes with him would make you look stupid, or change your point of view! brian does not use the internet, probaly a good thing! but he has nothing to prove to anyone! the man is still out working the terriers weekly in the season and still producing the goods when it comes down to terrier work! as for ruining the breed, he has done more for the breed than any one of you knocking the man down, for somewhere in most patterdale blood it will go back to brians yard!