from what i know the guy who owned Punch could get a poodle to out work the crap the idiots that knock his stuff,you need a good dog man behind good breeding,any twat can buy a well bred dog and any twat can ruin a well bred dog,a good dog man can get the best from whats his given,and if that is quality as in Punch the dog will only have gone on to be great,mostly a dog is as good as you so all its faults are a reflection on you !dont get out much dont show your dog much your lazy and so is the dog !Give any wanker the best breeding and they can ruin it!