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Everything posted by showmespeed
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Terrier work isn't rocket science but any great terrier man will say learn from your own mistakes. Most terriers will have a good sense in hunting unless you get a total retard which is pretty hard. I think most terriers out of the paper will give you some sense of working ability. Start with a rat and a terrier, he will do the rest or should interest and build with the little guy from there. Dogs with a big name doesn't mean shart so get one that seems smart and trainable be given away for free in the paper, which there is a ton I bet in your neck of the world. Have a go and if the dog shows
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nICE ONE GO2GROUND! Yep I love taking youngins hunting, they are all eager to dig be my guess youngin lol
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If you are buying dogs from people you don't know or people who can't be vouched for in the first places makes the buyer not the peddler at fault. I have never done business in dogs with someone I didn't respect or someone who I knew didn't respect them.
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What Fells, Patterdales, Lakelands, Colored dogs or whatever you call them made some of the biggest impact on the breed / type? Not a bad mouth chance on a particular breeder or anything like. Lets talk dogs theirselves and not their owners or breeders? I don't want this to turn into a dog peddler bash, what dogs were bred and had the ability to reproduce theirsleves or better more often. Past and present dogs, doesn't matter.
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He is down from Booth dogs, correct
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Any terrier that will is a people biter deserves a bullet. I would to hate reaching in on a dog that bites no matter the size. Bull blood that bites automatically is shit blood!
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my patterdale lets see yours
showmespeed replied to jayjay 1995's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
Lots of rain, soft soil and easy digs during that time. -
Very right and I see eye to eye with you on the dispatch. I rather dispatch myself than the dog, gives them longer lives for sure. This is what makes the coons so tough, you can see on this break through how tight spaces and the those hands give coons an advantage compared to game.
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my patterdale lets see yours
showmespeed replied to jayjay 1995's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
Real pattys in America who actually are dug to. -
I have yet to hit a badger but don't give up that a coon is a tough SOB and I think the thing that makes the coons hard game are those hands like a human where a badger doesn't have the advantage of pulling a terrier close unless it is biting. I think the structure of a badger vs a coon in mouth probably isn't that different IMO from what I can read but like I said I am not seasoned in badgers as that is hard game to find for me in my area. A coon will pull a dog close when they have to and use their hands to move a terriers head around especially in tight earth spots. Coons are smart hard fig
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Difference between backfilling and not backfilling is the difference between idiots and gentlemen. Sorry to hear but back filling leaves a spot to check later where as not gives the game no where to take up again. Even if you don't do it to be a gentlemen, you should do it to find game there again.
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Should she have a booster?
showmespeed replied to man o kent's topic in Working Dog Health & Training Talk
I do it only as a pup. I don't know what regulations are in your country but the only thing I do after pup status is the rabies. It isn't seen much here in the states but a good immune system can't beat it so that is all I do. Pups I do 6 week, 12 week, and then 6 month 7 in 1 shots that I can buy at the local feed store and nothing else but that except for the rabies like I said. -
I think it does make a difference between a decent affordable food vs a RAW diet. I have done great amount research and seen the difference first hand in performance dogs. Atthe time it was a win or loose situation. I also kept my terriers for many years and the health of the dogs overall is superb compared to kibble. Hands down the only way to go!
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Carrying equipment into the field
showmespeed replied to showmespeed's topic in Earthdogs & Working Terriers
yeah we do a lot of hiking unless we are doing some city digs which I have been doing more since it is deer/turkey season and don't want to have to kill some gun hunter for shooting a dog of mine. But a normal hunt we go for 2-4 miles in a day easily hitting sets so we take as much with us as possible without wearing ourselves out. I will post my setup tomorrow. -
Dont buy a dog, try to find some mates that are close and hunt. Go do the dirty work for them diggin and what not, earn their respect. I am across the pond but dog people don't differ in my opinion no matter where you go just different styles of dogs and hunting. Just don't let some puppy peddler take your cash. If you can't get a referral or find people who hunt with working dogs you are shooting blind folded. Good luck buddy and happy hunting.
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If people didn't mind posting pics of how they carry equipment into the field. I have tried something but limited like we all are with being a pack mule. You know the basics, shovel, bar, post digger or what not. I searched the forum but I am just trying to build some ideas and start there. I have had some things that work but had some back fire too with a shovel against the head or heel doesn't feel to good. I carry a backpack and that works good for handtools, gloves and first aid for the dogs but if you have an idea or pics that would be awesome. Thanks in advance.
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I like using a flirt pole with them, if you got stairs or a dog carpet mill that is great for wind and rear. I condition my dogs like old time pit bulldog men. Conditioning them in the lake playing fetch is cheap and can be done any where!
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Now matter what person bred the dog, half of what a dog is depends on the terrierman. I got a nutall bred dog here in the states and he has a great nose, knows how to bay, knows how to fight (smartly) and gets them to bolt too! I will never degraded a dog because of dislike for the name of the breeder. If his dogs are so shite why is he known world wide for owning good dogs! yes their are curs in the world but % are good for nuttall dogs in my eyes. He came to the states about 30 years ago to watch my friends birds and they are still alive and kicking out good dogs still today. Dog has taken c
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Good money for the pelts but most of them are going to russia or china from what I hear. Quality pelts tanned can bring $25-45 bucks this year, untanned a place by me in the midwest are giving $20 bucks for large coons.
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You would be better off getting a gamebred APBT from the states. Staffys will not amount to same drive or ability. I am sorry to say it is the truth of it. Most people don't even realize true gamebred dogs to even be APBT, just look a terrier cross a lot of them especially if you go female better chance of hiding the breed of dog.
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Put lime in the kennels and it will keep them gone and it helps also to reduce smell for urine as well.
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Got into a little bit of a heated debate last night with a terrierman. I.E. - Had a dog working a coon in the ground, working hard but the coon had grabbed the dogs locating collar and was working my dog over because the coon pretty much had him on the top of the collar and bottom feet on the bottom of the collar when they came out this hole / tree trunk den. yeah we were in the guts but that takes to long and my dogs are smart about not getting chewed up so this was a new event for him and I felt bad for the boy because the collar was stopping him from doing his job. That was the last time I
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Exactly
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I would classify what you are saying is gameness and that is much harder to find than a rough one. Rough ones won't give up when they are in the lead but if they get behind or face adversity they run when that one that has so so ability but never gives up will be the one I keep. Not giving up means more in terriers than other breeds IMO. Heart / Gameness is the first atribute I want in my dogs by far!
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You hit the nail on the head and still no one recongizes that this comment is the most pin point one made and the only way any of these breeds of workers will continue. Best to Best breeds good dogs. Formulating a plan of breeding in particular way and style prouduces greats but at the same time it brings the money hungry peddlers but if true terrier men keep them the breedings to themselves it flourishes to a more precise science of getting great dogs as the norm vs. luck.