patience and more patience, i have a jrt cross poss with lakie. I very nearly gave in and the mrs was none too pleased when he bit her, but got him out with a mates pack as often as possible, he is as busy as now, using his nose , put 3 or 4 up on tonights short walk, only thing is he is as noisy as hell when he gets on something, howling and yelping, but hey ho.