yes, very true we men are a lump of cry babies indeed, but with all the dishonesty, and peddling culls has got to come to an end.. it doesnt take a scientist to figure out who are the peddlers on this thread. it is next to impossible to get a real worker from a website kennel and the prices asked for a pup that is not guaranteed to mature to a worker is insane. but with any breed or any sport there is always a few that make it all about the dollar or euro, pure greed, poison for any breed or sport. atb