cant some of you read i no who had the sire befor the lad thats got it now the lad that has the sire put him over a collie grey and the lad i got this of had it from a pup at 8 week old so its not been passed about im the second person to own it and yes i no its under weight but that geting worked on the lad that had it befor me kept it on his alotment