no i got a retriever a few days a go i did not know what to do with it. it was from a famliy home not a thing done with it never did a days work in it life. whent out for a shot today took it and the pointer out, and f**k me it did not take long before she new what a woodcock and a snipe where :laugh: it whent so well i walked for 2hours with them, she coped when the pointer would set, and then i whent all in..........let off 2 shots and not a flinch. and then to top it off was out shooting about 3 weeks ago and me buddy lost his hat in the bog where i was, she was of little bit from me i s