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and like most good reads. glen wont let the truth get in the way of a good story "truth".. ..im still waiting for the little dog above to be photod next to a tape measure...that you claim is 12.5 inchs ... you galantly seem to be sticking piccys of other peeps dogs up or are have you suddenly bought a few in ( i think not) a little advise dont belive all the owners tell you about there dogs..spady :sick: ..but then youve only been in the breed a few months ..experince is telling here now ..those that know what there talking about haveing a decent converstion and the rest that jump
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love this classic picy pure class...my hero!
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Ive seen and handled Cleanspades terrier and its the size he says it is, you sound like a right jealous twat Jealous of what? totaly unbaised then Tesco Totally unbiased just saying what I see, never owned a Plummer and never wanted to, incidentally if the terriers DBP bred are/were so bad and the improvements you've made to them are so vast why dont you call them Welsby terriers, are you afraid it may affect the sales if you were to "stand alone" as it were Yea unbiased right and Tesco ..catch up " the welsby terrier" been said ..what 20 times in this thread so far lol.
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Not that i can see but coin a brother is being great grandsire to mat Pyes San who figurs in many lines including mine ..infcat my stud is 0.8% coin ..not alot of influence there now lol..
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The top picy was deioms when i took the picture at my house,infact ive still got that half of the black coupling..LOL . He was bit of a fighter and did'nt do much work wise, he was passed around and ended up im told by c.prise sireing parsons for muriel jones mate. The other two im 99.9% sure are phobos left and trembling, his brother right trembling eneded up with a sore throat as can be seen in the pic, due to earh work. He was pet homed due to being to hard. Barad was marked differntly and had a bad coat.
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Ive seen and handled Cleanspades terrier and its the size he says it is, you sound like a right jealous twat Jealous of what? totaly unbaised then Tesco
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looks like sareil
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and like most good reads. glen wont let the truth get in the way of a good story "truth".. ..im still waiting for the little dog above to be photod next to a tape measure...that you claim is 12.5 inchs ... you galantly seem to be sticking piccys of other peeps dogs up or are have you suddenly bought a few in ( i think not) a little advise dont belive all the owners tell you about there dogs..spady :sick: ..but then youve only been in the breed a few months ..experince is telling here now ..those that know what there talking about haveing a decent converstion and the rest that jump
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and like most good reads. glen wont let the truth get in the way of a good story "truth".. ..im still waiting for the little dog above to be photod next to a tape measure...that you claim is 12.5 inchs ... you galantly seem to be sticking piccys of other peeps dogs up or are have you suddenly bought a few in ( i think not) a little advise dont belive all the owners tell you about there dogs..spady :sick: ..but then youve only been in the breed a few months ..experince is telling here now ..those that know what there talking about haveing a decent converstion and the rest that jump
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Politics..we accepted the new blood as i believed at the time we had no choice if we were going to get the breed registered every move made by any club would be blocked by norma and the so called club ..PTCGB..However subsequently things have moved on and we are now in a different spot. The Kc cant forever listen to individuals and unstructured minorities over the majority's. Breeding wise linebreeding fixing traits (most common stratergy of breeders of livestock) ,,etc yes but . you have completly lost me with.. "Talk of percentages is all very well to a point, but certain ind
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Glen with due respect,iv owned and still do own pure and out cross so i feel im more than able to give an opinion on work,or are you saying that the "pures" of today are compleatly different to back then? If its working on top get a copy of the BORN TO RAT DVD you will see plenty of outcross that are more than capable,and none of them are killing each other or thier owners. I think the bull has done it job its gone in,and breeding very level,out of 4 pups in shinys litter not one over 12.5 dog or bitch, yes that maybe down to the pure,but it is not un common now Glen PS im not bothered
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"the bull blood has made no difference workwise whatso ever" Surely to be unbiased and to be able to judge this you would have to worked pre bull blooded stuff. I don't recall you back then owning or working them at all..never mind breeding them. Like i said experience of these dogs before and after are limited to ..nobody! Controversially "they are all plumemrs etc etc now " move etc etc . Will the KC think so we will see.
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No not really clear bill as the statement is contradictory ..f1s (50% of one breed and 50% another) are not homozygous and will not breed true...but by adding "once line bred " you cancel out the % idea..of course animals breed truer when they are inbred that's the whole point of inbreeding... BUT HIGH % OF ONE BREED WILL INFLEUNCE THE LOOK OF THE OFFSPRING MASSIVELY...(LINEBREEDING TO THAT BREED).IS EFFECTIVELY LINEBREEDING TO A TRAIT THE BREED HAS EG LONG NOSES IN FOXTERRIERS. My data also produces information that says that animals with more than 25% effectively f2s of a certain
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Glen are the Plummers still ageing prematurely?Or is this a problem that it no longer with them? Not sure really we have a few now at 9/10 doing regular ratting trips.
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I have no need to scaremonger sapdey why would i ned to scaremonger? Ask piggin (PC)about his vist here ...if he dare say the truth. As for bitters whos to say why we have had these calls but as we are a club and advertise then perhaps we get them more than you who deosnt even share his name? Right cleanspade ..so then you will give us a breakdown of its pedigree so we can see just what it is made up of ...then.. you will proove that that this/these phenotypic looking animals processes all the traits "fixed" in required by the out cross..programme. I doubt this. You hav
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Politics..we accepted the new blood as i believed at the time we had no choice if we were going to get the breed registered every move made by any club would be blocked by norma and the so called club ..PTCGB..However subsequently things have moved on and we are now in a different spot. The Kc cant forever listen to individuals and unstructured minorities over the majority's. Breeding wise linebreeding fixing traits (most common stratergy of breeders of livestock) ,,etc yes but . you have completly lost me with.. "Talk of percentages is all very well to a point, but certain ind
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I can't find any illustatrion be that written on website or in hard copy that the outcross "plan" was carried out to improve working ability. My conversation with DBp when asking if he had recieved my video of the first lancaster show judged by jk "hayeleys owner"..was one sided as usual with DBP,, He bleated on about "we need to improve heads in the bitchs" i disagreed that an outcross even then was needed..IMO ONE CAN'T JUDGE A BREED FROM A RANDOM SELECTION OF DOGS AT A POORELY ANTENDED SHOW...VIA VIDEO.! I do agree that the breed is in need of some good educated breeders ..to help
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THE PUREBERD CAN STAND ALONE AND HAVE PROVEN TO SINCE QUITE CONSDIERBALY WELL HERE THEY HAVE. The adtition of outcross blood to the eptr regiter was a polictal move only. Apprently according to a leading authority .. outcross was inteneded to a job of "correcting numerous faults " which apprently were "constantly occurring" Fact is the most common desaeses were at around 1% of the total popultion. The breed appraently "desperately needed an outcross" in order to bring the breed back into line ...whatever that means. It is also stated that the outcross woul
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"Maybe shes doing well because of the bull blood ..." ...i doubt it as the first gen were soon "bred back asap" to get some "ability and looks " in them. Temprement ...I would argue that the bull cross did'nt improve temprememnt..Id arguie that its not a common attribute of the said breeds blood. IMO if these were good or considered by owners better than the original stock then surely the old PTCB and its hardcore working members would have set up a public register for line bred studs of highly prized bull blooded dogs . If a breeder somewhere is line breeding back to "hallowed h
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ive had some success with sassy. she is an oc bitch and has done a little. she is however to big to be an out an out earthdog. but has bolted a few foxes to date and is keen to start the winter doing any legal pest control. nothing special but does the job and is a first rate top dog There you go a wasted mating (accidently on purpose of course) of a fantastic wyremead bitch to a massive oc dog ! One of the best working lines in the country polluted by pet bull blood dog!..(well done Brian great idea )..job sorted Imo of course,no offense intended. not accidentally on purpose,
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ive had some success with sassy. she is an oc bitch and has done a little. she is however to big to be an out an out earthdog. but has bolted a few foxes to date and is keen to start the winter doing any legal pest control. nothing special but does the job and is a first rate top dog There you go a wasted mating (accidently on purpose of course) of a fantastic wyremead bitch to a massive oc dog ! One of the best working lines in the country polluted by pet bull blood dog!..(well done Brian great idea )..job sorted Imo of course,no offense intended.
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WHERES THE LIES STEVE IM WAITING nows who lieing.. Yes we did very well at the epts breed show under a kc judge that i had never met before All three female veterans were bred by me, the male was out of a wyremead bitch. Champion puppy and reserve champion junior.... to a dog i bred. oh and best of breed toka's "bilbo" bred from wyremead alfie and wyremead nancy ... an oustanding dog ..come on steve your lacking again ... reread the post "my dogs may well be shown at crufts WHEN sold on ..not then sold on " doh ..like i said halfwits
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Seeing as your having a pop at clubs again and me imparticlular steve then I will have me say.. The reason we and i'm pushing for recognition is nothig to do with wanting to be at crufts or money ..i've not been in a ring showing a dog in ten years,,, and aim never to .infact phil k showed all my dogs this last weekend at our breed club show.. where we did very well Money wise unlike you I have a good job and don't relay on breeding terriers for money infact i have raised only 8 pups this year and kept 2 .(2 litters) Hardly a money making scam eh! Im sure Brian wan
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top dog toka!! but have high hopes for paul next year with eli!
