cheers mate, she was 6 weeks old when i got her she was always a natural retriever, she was the best lamping dog ive ever owned, and good for ferreting, she also caught plenty of hares, although obviously not through purist coursing methods, basically she was a proper good pot filler, but unfortunately she got knocked over and killed at about 3 years of age by a speeding motorist, who didnt even stop on a tiny country lane, i was sick as a pig, i had had dogs for a long time before this one came along but this was my favourite i had had, i was that sick when she got killed about 25 years bac