hi all thanks for all replys the dog has got id say 97% recall bring evrythin back to hand as when i first got him i got told to have him retreeving and stay sit etc as i got told there no worse then a disabediant dog on a night time havin to shout or scaring all quarry away for miles and has for takin the dog out thru day i got a day time kill back live to hand showed me he got a good soft mouth and thats what i want around my kid atb cheers....