Lurcherlad, without wishing to be contentious, you did take that black and tan pup out lamping at 10 months old after only owning her for a couple of days I think, and you were pissed off that it was pulling up at a few bushes! Now, you can get as defensive, aggressive, pissed off etc with people as much as you like, you were given some good, common sense advice and, like most impulsive newcomers that can't wait, or haven't got the patience needed to have half a chance with a dog, you chose to run it TOO YOUNG, TOO SOON, and seemingly without much knowledge of the bitch. Arcticgun gave some go