Just to answer a few of the questions, i didnt really know anything about working dogs till i met LDR and he has obviously started taking me out to see what its all about. The lurcher in the pic is obviously LDRs dog bruce, so i guess a few will know that his exact breeding is unknown, my springer Jess is from working lines, but i've never worked her as she is just a pet to me i'm sure now in the future though that any further dogs we get together will be all worked as Danny doesn't believe in having working breeds as pets!!! Anyway thanks for all the welcome messages!!