hi there all when pup is around 8 to 9 months i start lamping the pup in big horse padicks see the wether will help so no need to spoall the pup lamping can be done in steps my pups frist lamp he did not evan pall but one night i got a rabbit to sit and got verry close pup did not evan see it so i put my foot up it's ass and when it jumped up pup palled i sliped the chase was on good couse for about 15 seconds then pup losed it up long the hedge but the next night i was so keen back out pup well up for it he never look back now kills every think that movse on the lamp