well cheaper than a spray collar anyways, anythings worth a try like, thanks for the advice jenna, atb Nicole.
tried the water treatment and it works i have also used the electric shock collars that works too but some it will not work on wat ever method tried i have just sent one to a farm i have due to it making too much noise and the neighbours complaining hopefuly he will quieten down once work starts nowt worse than a noisy dog