Ohhhh a pissing contest LOL, My two penneth I have shot between 100-150 deer per year for well over 24 or so years guided clients on as many if not more seen and used from .222 to 300rum on munty to red, I have NOT shot elk, grizzly or plains game and despite living on the Jurassic coast have never found a dinosaur to bag, my tool of choice .25-06 pushing an 85gr nosler ballistic tip at some 3600fps it moderates beautifully,no discernible recoil,has the grunt to get any job done in the UK and is point and shoot to well over 300 yds,