Thanks for all the positive input lads,well encouraging. I bought some live catch rat traps the other week, and thats what I was goin to do,catch a few and get them all on a field and see what happens. Fern is shaping up good,just bought a HW95K package and whilst sighting in yesterday a carrion happend to land near the target so I had a quick calculation and lo n behold I hit it,pukka!only it was in full of the kitchen window and the mrs seen it. But long n short,been using the frozen crow as a fetch toy and shes been loving it,shes been munching it today. Shes goin on the BARF diet as soon a