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Thanks everyone for the kind words. You've asked about hunting other stuff. We are almost exclusively pig catchers. Don't know why. It's not a conscious thing, that's all Paul and I are actually interested in. My other son James is a fanatic fisherman, ethical and quick on the trigger with people who don't show the appropriate respect for the fishery. I'm not joking about James, he is willing and able. We are all probably a little bit mad but we take ethics and that sort of thing really seriously. The good news about that though is we have a good rep with landholders, government regulatory t
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Thanks very much Michael. It's hard to tell whether or not you blokes are that interested sometimes because you guys are much less active commenting than the Aussies But that might be a cultural difference or something. I will definitely keep going if people are interested... Just to show I'm serious about giving some of you guys a go at the pigs here are some pix from about 18 months ago Paul took along a couple of overseas visitors who were working for a cousin. It was their first time dogging pigs and Paul said they hooked right in. This is Aaron (from Wales) and Hannah. And
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I use one in Oz. My sons both have them and we torture them. Cheap to run we put them in some ridiculous places to get to the pigs or remote fishing spots. Out here they are Holden rodeos but they are the same thing. If I had the money I'd buy a new one but our vehicles work hard so new ones lose their value instantly in our hands. Cheers.
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Mate if you can get out here, I'll take you for a run. There's a few unwritten rules but probably much the same for all guests on any hunt. Some are specific to boar catching and sticking because while your trying to kill the boar he is trying to kill you back. Cheers.
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Dave had to carry the black and white boar about 200 metres. I carried it for maybe 20 or 30. It was Dave's hunt and he was getting the cash from selling them so I guess he felt he should do the most. He is also 30 and I am in my 50th year so I think it was also that he took pity on me. One hundred kilos is a reasonable weight to walk with on your shoulders in the bush so I was glad Dave stepped up. The black boar Dave carried about 70 metres and he and I dragged it a further 20metres to the truck. They then have to be lifted on to the gutting rail and then onto the pelvis bar for transport.
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And, anticipating the question, Soda is a straight cross Dane deerhound and Max is that plus bull arab (an aussie pigdog breed which started with greyhound, Eng bull terrier and german shorthaired pointer. Cheers.
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G'day everyone, I'm not long back from a night out with mate Dave Wild and I thought I'd get the pix up before I fall asleep. Dave invited me for a run more than 12 months ago and it has taken me this long to get my act together and go. And I'm bloody glad I did. We hunted some crop, some stubble, tree lines and some b*****d scrub from sunset yesterday until early in the AM before sun up for five pigs. Three of them were sellers and two of the them were bloody rippers. Dave told me of two boars that had beaten him before in two specific spots. He tried a slight change of tactics la
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Heading for a run tonight onto another bloke's country. I'm meeting him at a point out in the bush and we're doing a run with a couple of his dogs and a couple of mine into some harvested cropping (stubble) that borders scrub running up into rough little hills. It's a recipe for trouble and that's why we're going there. I have high hopes (as always) for a decent boar or two but they often get into the rocky hills and back up into little caves and things and make their stand. The dogs and us have top go in head on and it can get messy. A big boar backed into a little one pig sized rock cave is
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Thanks again Rio. I've started a thread on the dogs on the ozziedoggers forum which details the breeding and plans etc. With the line before mine, Butters dogs we can go back nine generations to the 1980s. I know that might not be long to you blokes but these are effectively crossbreds and everyone of them was hard tested working stock. The thread is in the VIP section so unless you're a paid member ($10 a year) you can't see it. I'll just keep posting bit and pieces here either way, but just wanted to point that out if any readers were keen. Cheers.
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Oh and on lamping, (spotlighting?) yes very productive although good nose dogs don't need the light. They just jump when they smell a pig and grab it. Ours will go up to 2 kms on a scent and hit what's at the end of it. But there are thousnads of dogs out here that do that, not just Makim dogs. Cheers.
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And thanks very much for the comments. The meat ends up as either dog food in the big freezer (I have a few dogs...) or on the plates of the Germans and Poles. There is an export market for boar but it has been very shaky of late so we are now ignoring the trade to just enjoy to battle. And re upsetting people, it's the being too far away that bugs me. Like lots of Australians, I prefer to deal with things face to face so I get frustrated by petty sniping. Anyway, as I said, I'll try to mind my own business and stick to this thread as long as you blokes are interested. Thanks again
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This another pix of Barney, he's a Makim dog, as you'd imagine. About 14 months old and one we will breed from in the future. Good finder and hard. The second pix is of Barney at five months and the third is of Barney and his owner Mitch (two weeks after the pup photo) and Barney's first boar. Mitch (who is a bit inexperienced) did not have him plated up when he went to look over some new country. Barney winded a pig off the truck, jumped and ran 400 metres to crash into two boars fighting. One boar escaped and Barney swung on the other accumulating a bit of 'experience' as can be
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So you'd burn women and kids?
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Interesting legal system you guys have over there. And what of the lawyers who spoke for this guy? Prostitutes happy to take the money at the expense of the victim.... Cheers.
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Cheers rio. It was a bit of fun and solved a pest problem so all good. Great training for the dogs too. We are into managing the dogs... that means we don't just let everyone go and see what happens. If you get the drop on pigs like this it's about getting everyone of them so it's good for the dogs to have to wait for their go. It's part of teaching dogs to go for their own pig so your yields are better. And it is also completely unnecessary to have more than one dog on pigs of this size. Indeed we expect the dogs to grab the monsters one-out so these things were well within the dogs' capabili
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Had another go at the pigs yesterday afternoon. Landholder had contacted us about a few pigs camped near his lucerne crop that he wanted gone. A young bloke here who has one of our strain came with me and we took one worker (Mary), one very advanced young dog (Barney)and one green young dog, Roger. After a bit of instruction from the cockie (landholder) on the lay of the land (we'd never been there before) we launched off in the truck along the river. There was some obvious sign here and there but we really didn't expect to see anything at that time. It was 5pm and stinking hot but that and th
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Short answer re spearing...yes. Just saw a vid on an Oz pig dog site of a bloke having a go with a boar spear as described in your post. The dog had the boar bailed (not held, dog just barking...in the US they call it baying) He slipped around the side and as the pig turned he got it a glancing blow. Second attempt he got the job done. Big hole, let me tell you. Blokes in Argentina do it too. You can actually get a boar without a dog just using a jumper (don't know if that's what you call them but a warm pullover top). It's not the item of clothing that matters, just that you can get it of
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There would be boars like this in the UK for sure. Once pigs get a foothold you will see a few of these rough fellas about. Cheers.
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Great post, Can just imagine the uproar if we did that over here! Laughed like hell at the casual "stabbed myself twice though" remark, Sure you didn't laugh though. It just shows the difference in the ways we hunt a similar species on another continent. Obviously the sheer size of the place you hunt means you're well away from other folk, affraid we dont have many places like that over here so we have to adapt our methods to suit our surroundings and what is deemed as acceptable. I have relatives over there in NSW, a place called Padstow Heights, must get over one day, I have heard loads of
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You can do it for a living but you have to be in prime country and the export market has to be sound. You get about $1 a kilo for dressed pigs (intestinal tract removed but skin on, head on and heart lungs and liver attached. Kidneys too. They go to Germany, Poland. My son does in professionally but also works on a station (farm?). I am also an accredited harvester (that's what it's called) but get my real money from a contract gardening business and a few blokes working for me so the pig catching is just a passion for me now. Cheers.
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The dogs take most of the danger out of it. It's just a matter of having faith in them and not being hesitant. You blokes there would have dogs that could do the job, I'm sure. Sticking them with a knife requires that you get hold of a back leg to control the animal then stick in in the chest behind the point of the elbow. If we are doing them for human consumption (export), you have to flip them on their side and stick them in the throat. On a proper big boar it can take two blokes to flip. You sort cross the backlegs over really quickly and you can get them off balance. On some you can hold
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Went for another run on Sunday morning. Didn't pick up anything significant, just this little sow. We kill the sows too because pigs are a pest animal over here and the landholders want them all eradicated. The danger in that is your dogs can learn that small pigs are just as good as big pigs. How we get around it is firstly to chase big pig selection as a genetic trait (some here argue is a learned trait but I firmly believe it is hereditary). The second is to get them off the little pig as quickly as possible and run on to get another. There's a bit more to it than that but that's the basic
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Goodo then gnasher. I'll leave it at that. Good luck managing those super tough dogs, the toughest bar none on the planet apparently. Cheers.
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Thanks for that. It explains a bit... Over here the laws cover any attack on anything. The dog can be declared dangerous for frightening someone. If the feds don't like the look of you or you're driving through a town other than your own, some cops will stop the vehicle and checkl for microchips. It is illegal here to have a dog thatr isn't microchipped and registered with the local authority. It's not rigorously enforced in your own home town but elsewhere you can get into strife. I'm older so the cops aren't so interested in me but the young blokes can get a hammering. It's all part of t
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.....i cant get tom and jerry cartoons out of my mind !! Mate....its better to give no advice than give bad advice. It's good advice mate. And it works. Can't imagine what's going through your head? Inexperience in the matter is all I can assume. I've been hunting boar with my own dogs since I was 17. I'm still doing it now. I'm 50 this year and still hands on. I mostly go alone and use a knife rather than a rifle. The dogs you rely on for that job have a lot of will as you would imagine. Breaking up a fight between two of them is a big job single handed...unless you do it
