cheers boys i didnt want him to enter at all untill he was at least 14 months old,but he was running off the lead along with the lurcher and she marked the hole and then he lay down it about 2 foot,it really confused me cuz im only in terriers a couple of years and all the terriers i had i bought them already working anything i did buy,and i never seen a pup doing that be4,thats why i wnted to ask you more experanced hunters too see what youes thought,that has really helped geers lads.