Thanks very much Geoff, that's given me a shove in the right direction. Will have a browse on ukgunroom, quite like the idea of a second hand beretta. I'm planning on having some lessons in the near future, being quite expensive I want to know I'm getting something out of them. What would the structure of a good first lesson be so I know whether to bother going back or not? I live in Kent, I've heard West kent offers a good service. Anyone been there/ had lessons with them? Thanks again for your time Geoff, not sure if these forums get fed up with newbies like me asking naive questions a