Thanks you guys, the advice is great. I'm going to try snaring for now. I have a bit of permission to bush and take some walked up game, anything the dogs can get, on some watermeadows near here, so I'm gona ask the farmer if I could try to snare there too, he's snided out with rabs. I don't mind a few, but bloody hell, when the buggers are so cheeky you gotta do something! If I have some success he might let me have a wider range. Ive been down there this morning looking at the runs and seeing where there clearest. You can't ferret there cos the hedges are double sheep wired, but loads of