barry white. i bought a bsa ultra se brand new. to say it was a disappointment is an understatement. I've had 3 bsa pcps now, and im completely and utterly underwhelmed by them. i have had a couple of hw 100s brand new and there end's the aforementioned debate. out of the box, bsa cant hold a candle to hw. the mags are rubbish. the magazine retaining clip is cheaply finished, the blueing is third rate
and overall just a disappointed in the end product. on the plus side the r-10 looks really nice. so would have 1 as an ornament. i would not go out and pay for 1 though.