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[]=Rifle&Filter[NewMechanism][]=Bolt%20Action&Filter[Calibre][]=.17%20HMR&Filter[Make][]=C%20Z&Filter[Make][]=CZ]"]This looks good too, not sure from pic but that scope could be a WTC.
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Can't go wrong with CZ 452, mate
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It doesn't matter at this stage, your FEO can amend it for you without you having to pay for another variation. Most FLO's will put expanding ammo on by default if you put Vermin/Pest control as your reason for wanting a FAC but it's worth mentioning to him to make sure. My FEO had only been in the job a few days when he came to see me and I'd put ".22 HP" on my application, he asked me what it meant and I said Hollow Point, he said I'd probably not get that on first cert and have to wait until renewal but the FLO over-ruled him and said they put expanding on by default, even if you don't
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I'd be really tempted to get stainless mounts and a silver scope if I had a CZ Style. Luckily I got the Silhouette so could use mounts and a big ole WTC scope I already had! Nice looking setup, have fun shooting it
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No and No but it doesn't hurt to send copies to your FEO, helps support your case when applying for your cert to be opened as it shows you're gaining experience on different land.
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There's no point asking the landowner. It's the FLO's decision, not his and land does have to be re-surveyed periodically so he may not be up-to-date. I would ask the FLO (Firearms Licensing Office) rather than the FEO (Firearms Enquiry Officer) as they can check the database while you're on the phone, the FEO would likely have to go back to them, check and then come back to you. You only need to declare one piece of land on your FAC Application and although it doesn't mention it anywhere on the forms most FLO's will ask for a copy of your written signed permission. This land WILL be check
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...or other land provided that you have checked that it's cleared by the local FLO for the calibre you intend to use first.
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My chickens attacked a rabbit that ran into their electric fence once (as if he didn't have enough problems with 10,000 volts running through him). They will also try and foot my black lab if he gets too close to them, so hopefully they'd see charlie off too.
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I'd go for a CZ452 in 16" and save the money to spend on HMR ammo
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with a mod or with out a mod...
Colster replied to langouroux's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
On a slight side note, is it just .22-250 where a mod will help with muzzle flip? A mate used to use a T8 on his old .243 but when he bought a new gun it wasn't screwcut so he sold the T8 and never bothered with getting the new barrel done. -
I'm not a fan of mentoring by rule although I think it's a good idea for people to have an experienced shot at the start but a lot of people rave about HMR (never tried one so can't comment) so don't worry about it, you're gonna love it anyway Welcome to FAC Land!
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Agreed, I'd admit that asking for HMR for fox in an area that doesn't allow it (e.g. Cambridge) will not be a good start but some areas DO allow it. Find out first, so you don't shoot yourself in the foot (figuratively speaking of course)
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Thanks for the tips guys and sorry to the OP for threadjacking.
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The Home Guidance notes to Firearms Offices suggests that Sec 1 shotguns should always be granted as open tickets by default to save FEO's having to survey land just for their use but as we all know FLO's differ from region in how they interpret these notes.
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Mine is creeping up on me. I applied for my FAC last year and a number of people suggested to me I went co-terminous (extra tenner and I can pick up an old SBS for about £100 I thought) so I went for it. The problem I'm having is getting my eye in, if it's sat in a tree or on the ground I can nail it but the minute it's moving I struggle. Although I've now been offered an old clay trap so that should mean: I get the practice necessary to start being able to work out the necessary lead. I end up spending more money on the shotgun than I do on the rifle that was the reason for ge
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supervision with new firearm
Colster replied to upperlane2's topic in Rimfire, Centrefire & Shotguns
Usually it's same or bigger. It's very common for people moving into deer calibres when they've only had rimfire before and personally I would recommend to anyone to get themselves a mentor when they start out - I am opposed, however, to FLO's making it conditional, I see it as the thin end of the wedge. I started out shooting a mate's LR before getting my FAC, he has a .243 and his DSC1 & 2 and he's been an invaluable source of information and guidance for me. -
Yes (although not sure about the mod) but you would need to be a full member of a target club (probabtion period is usually 6 months) but then you wouldn't be able to hunt with it. As has been said above, get off your a@r3 and get knocking on doors. I like most people on here started out with a sub 12 air-rifle, got some land and slogged it out on foot, then used that land and the farmers blessing to get my FAC/SGC. It's hard work but man I'm glad I did it. Had a great day yesterday as he also let me use one of his fields for trying out some supersonic ammo in my LR. Set my targets up at 9
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Yes it's section 1 if it holds more than 3 carts (2+1) and as said you need a reason to own (like any FAC gun). There is a sport called Practical Shotgun specifically for Section 1 shotguns. Maybe worth looking into if a Section 1 is really what you want. High levels of Pigeon infestation is another possible but you may struggle to get it cleared for clays.
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Gun dealers will send a form off to confirm they sold the gun, you still need to send one in to your FLO to say you have acquired one. Unless you know that the gundealer has sent both off, you need to send your's yourself.
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Having got my FAC through Norfolk I can say that nothing seemed to happen until I gave them a prod. Not complaining, they've all been really helpful but here's how mine went. I was quoted 6-8weeks when I dropped in the forms. I was led to believe that the cheque was cashed immediately but mine hadn't been after a fortnight so rang up the office, they confirmed that the background checks had all been done and were ok and that my application had been passed to an FEO. Got off the phone and ten minutes later the FEO rings, says he can't do the home visit that week as he's new and doesn't have
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You'd need to check with your own area FLO, some will consider HMR a suitable fox calibre but many don't. Personally I'd consider HMR "more" suitable than LR but that's just my opinion but in reality both will do the job if the shooter does his. Fox is a good reason for a centrefire application (I'm assuming you're thinking .22CF), then as to which centrefire... ah well that's a subject all of it's own. I'd probably go for .223 or .22-250 because then I'd have the possibility of the smaller deer species then too.
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Synchronised posting! Anyone want to hazard a wild guess at which knowledgeable forum member sorted me out on the post on another forum when this came up. Deker is a legend, trust what he says!
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Happy to help mate, if he wants convincing tell him to have a look at the 1968 and 1988 Firearms Acts with particular regard to the section on EXEMPTIONS FROM THE REQUIREMENT TO HOLD A CERTIFICATE, it's all in there. Couldn't find the post before but found it now, that should shut him up! The definition of occupier is taken from the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, in the firearms act it suggests FLO's could adopt this definition
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This was covered on another forum not long ago: If you are the owner or occupier of the land then you can lend a gun (including FAC) to a non-license holder to use while in your presence (ie within sight and sound of them) Owner is obvious but occupier extends to include tenant farmers and anyone with shooting rights on the land so it doesn't have to be your land, you just need permission to shoot from the landowner. It would be a worthwhile courtesy in cases when you're not the landowner to have their permission to bring others onto their land to shoot but that's between you and the lando
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Basically it's largely a matter of preference and the land that you're shooting over. If it's mainly smallish ranges and you can easily get within 60- yards of the rabbits then I'd suggest LR - the ammo is cheaper and it's loads quieter. LR can be more versatile too if you have one that likes different ammo, it's feasible to get HMR like range by using High Velocity ammo or FAC Air like safety using Low Velocity. This is a bit of an outside consideration though as many people report inconsistent accuracy using High and Low Velocity ammo through LR. Mine seems ok at 40 yards with LV but not