dont see the point when you can get a laky or pat for 200 
 
  
you may have to keep in mind that a laky is half the dog wish a good jagd is. 
 
  
bollocks 
 
how would you know unless you`ve worked both -- horses for courses the jagd is seen as a way forward for some lads --- 
  
to say a laky is half the dog a jagd is is pure bull mate,