never had one myself ,but the thing is,if you want a 3/4 ,1/2 ,5/8 collie cross thats what you get .people say get worker to worker its ok if you no the person and seen the dogs run.but of a stranger unless you seen both parents run they might be a heap, jacker .you see people on here moaning there dog has not made the size ,build ,length ect,.because people are not honest anymore ,like bullx /saluki x theres so many big names out there which people can easly use to sell pups.and then wonder why your dogs not doing what you want it to, cos it was ROBS] old mutt from round the corner .the thi