i wenty out ferreting yesterday, and used a new hob i have aquired. i think gthe fact that the hobs and jills have never met each other helped, as when all the rabbits bolted and the jills were still down, i put in the hob and he seemed to pester the jills and they all came running out making ferret noises. by using this technique, i didnt get one lie up, and for this time of year with kits about, i thought this was quite a good result. i also let the ferrets stuff themselves on ox heart the night before to make sure they were stuffed and would not eat underground, and i also think this helped