Very good reply.
i agree. i work on a farm and see the ingenuity of a collie on a daily basis, and i dont have a clue about sheepdogs, but if i go out to do a job with the dogs on my own without the handler present, they work out very quickly whats needed to be done, and me trying to command them only confuses them, so i agree they are very smart in that respect. these dogs work on quite big open ground and need little or no commands really when gathering sheep, their proper sheepdogs not your trial dogs. but my dog cuts off rabbits and learn to hunt off a labrador so is its all its crac