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I expect alot from my dogs and people who been out with me know this but havimg said that you start with basics and work up. O could be out all night and see 200+ rabbits a night but quarramtteed my dog ypungster will only run 4-5 Never skip a section in its learning. As the nights progress longer more challanging slips. Its reason so many kennels full of jacked or disheartened dogs. To many asking to much from to young. Give the time to let them learn correctly and confidently and have a much better dog in the end. Craft comes easy to a dog if out enough well any with half a brainWhen someone
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The point I'm making is I know when my dog is ready , 10 , 20 , or 50 yards don't matter most cases the little bugger you kick up will take off like a shagging rocket , I want my pup running the beam , If my young dog can't take a turn out of a 50 yard rabbit in a large field , he shouldn't be out yet , simple as , we all want to give young dogs a great start , but to say he must catch a rabbit to do that is naive , The point being is that the dog will catch but I want him lamp savy and mannerly , to many lads with mutts running round like headless chickens on lamp in a bid to catch i
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I'm not sure what the fear is to let a young dog off on a rabbit 50 yards away . The dog might miss ?? If you pace out 50 yards and then weigh it up , Obviously if you are out just for a pup to catch its different than a pup learning the lamp , I don't take a pup out on the lamp unless I know the ability is there Taking a young dog on the lamp should be about knowing it has the ability ,taking it nice and calm and making the dog believe that when you hiss it on there is something in the beam That's all the matters that the pup learns to run the beam , if the dog has the minerals t
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Sorry , may be getting our wires crossed , I'm talking about sighted
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Out in the field yes or no, I have a marker 50 yards down the field and would slip a young dog all day at that distance Been said on here 50 yards is too far for varies reason , light pollution , clever rabbits ,
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He's talking about the dogs very first night out lamping rabbits If you had a young dog on a slip and is sighted of a rabbit 50 yards away do you slip it yes or no,
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Let's get this straight, A rabbit 50 yards away in a big field is beyond a young dogs capabilities, not talking a pup here , a young dog coming up on 11 or 12 months old How else are you going to get him running the beam if you don't practise it
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Pace out 50 yards , some large dogs won't even be up to speed at that distance , it's not that far
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Is 50 yards really too far ?? With conditions like that how are you going to get any nearer ?? Only ever saw experience of the dog as a barrier to really long slips 200 metres or more, only because the dog knows through experience there is something out there If Ya can't start a dog on 50 metre slips , do Ya just come home again , 50 yards arnt all that far ,
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Knew a little bitch like that years ago, looking to get at anything , pulling like a dragon on the lead when out, up front and in your face but never felt it was anything other than a breed trait, , up and at them or laid back and relaxed , Bottom line, all animals of a certain breed look roughly the same but vary wildly in temperament
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Gnasher you and I both know that a dog bred to overcome huge resistance in the form of a dog , man or hog or whatever it is needs to carry that huge potential within itself, the potential is there whether we put it to use or not , On sites like this there is a general understanding of this and how drive effects a dog , drive is an emotional force to make contact be it a rabbit , fox , hog the list goes on , it was there originally in the first dogs and has been greatly amplified since then , The dog is the most highly social , highly sexed and highly aggressive animal living with us
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Another case of bad owner , it seems strange that people are dismayed when war dogs as previously mentioned , large mastiff breeds show aggressive traits , the clue is in the war bit , dogs that were once bred to overcome huge resistance , have potential to display huge aggression , the longer we keep believing these breeds are unstable the more damage is done to curtail our own Liberty to choose dog breeds
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It's just due to the highly social nature of the dog that there are not more attacks, so much so that society is taken back when a large predator acts predator like, If we take into account the amount of resistance that some of the driven breeds had to overcome to fulfil their breed standard, thankfully most dogs in society today are imploders but their are others whose temperament make them exploders, I do honestly believe these attacks could be prevented if we just addressed the nature of these breeds , the more we address these dogs as mental cases , the more helpless we are
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What about another large domestic animal bred by man , a Bull When a bull (prey animal) attacks its instinctual , when a dog ( predator) attacks its wired wrong..!!
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So a dog is the only animal in the entire animal kingdom that attacks with purely evil intent , whereas other attacks by large mammals are triggered through instinct or are they all evil deep down
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The big problem with discussions about dogs and on here in particular is the use of human concepts , bad , evil , wrong one , all human term and generally used when we can't quite understand a behavior If it was any other animal we would just say it's was Mother nature but dogs seem to be above that description , we have to put there behavior in a special Human/ canine box all of its own So instead off looking at canine concepts more closely and how we keep them and what they need , we just label them as off the wall and ban the breeds concerned , I would expect the terms evil and
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Here we go again ........How romantic !Dogs get labelled as mad or bad because folk can't understand a certain behavior Guaranteed, this dogs nature as a high temperament breed wasn't been fulfilled Hugely driven dogs in the wrong hands is an accident waiting to happen Dogs don't just turn , they become like a ticking time bomb and unfortunately for this poor woman was in the wrong place when the dog finally boiled over,
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Get the pup more comfortable in your space , in or around the space of every animal is a zone of awareness , when the pup encroaches in your zone and the same with you in hers it causes a shift in its mindset from predator like to prey like , the same when some fecker gets right in your face , we feel a sense of compression and have to pull away it's the same feeling , it causes a change Get contact with front legs up on yours, no discipline in your space , no corrections with hands or in that zone , get physical contact for everything you do for her, feed bits by having her sustain co
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Fair Play To This Man, As I Could Not Do It..lol
Casso replied to Saluki246's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Yes, some packs are very good at controling fox hounds and beagles, however, the few that i been hunting with in the passed, were a little out of control. Some got lost ect. The man in the clip i put up, had them all under control in traffic, ect, that would have fox hounds dead. Just my opinon and experince on the matter. Local pack of fox hounds exercised along part of main road here before the season starts , all in good order , great to see them too -
The pup needs a focus, sounds like a bit of a headless chicken, When do you intend starting him ?? Channeling him on prey as his breed intended will bond you to him and will lose that wild wanderlust he expresses, the wanderlust is just the pup trying to find prey making niche
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The idea behind the post is that dogs are energised by their surroundings, it's easy to see if your dog has ever caught a rabbit in a particular place in a field , ever after he will be energised/excited by that area, It's the same in the home if you give a pup the run of the house to do as he wishes , it will become a play area apart from the fact that the constant noise and stimulation will keep him buzzing , the pup absorbs the excited atmosphere and must then act on the excitement in his own doggy fashion , biting , tearing , ripping shit up, the sad thing about it is , people start b
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Pups also need plenty of sleep , a hyper stimulated pup in the house is a liability , the pup is just reacting to its surroundings Inside calm / outside play otherwise your just making a cross for your own back
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The movement of the sheep affect the dog , the energy of the sheep cause energy in the pup, the pup is only acting on it, You need to attract that same energy towards you , as Bird said before he uses a ball or something as a focus for that energy channeled back toward you , it's a case of you be able to attract the excitement back into bonding with you The more you confront the pup over it the more attractive the sheep become , attracting sheep energy in the pup into social interaction with you is the way to go ,
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The two of you out together no major stimulation from other dogs, if the pup chases let him come back make a fuss and move on again Try to manage the pup so he don't f**k up in that I mean try and only let him chase what he's supposed to chase, so you don't have to be correction him for doing what is only natural to do , it must feel natural for the pup to express his predator nature around you
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Straight away, every dog was an open book as a pup , we write the script for it, Plenty of good grub , don't reward bad behaviour, whining or yapping by making an appearance , Don't let the pup out when excited let it calm first , dogs believe whatever state they in is what made something happen , if you let him out when excited he will be drawn to excitement as a positive mindset , Best of luck
