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About 27 inchs to the shoulder and they would have been a little quicker than my straight foxhunds they kept the fell hound hind quaters which I think helped them in the hills i hunt in.When I get back home I"ll try and find some old photos for you.
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Pops some of the foxhounds i have owned were fell hound crosses this I beleive made them taller a bit lighter boned and a bit more independent. they had plenty of hunt wether they had more or less than a straight foxhound its hard to say as my last foxhound was a straight foxhound and he was as good as any Ive seen. The type of fox hound I had was modern english type just in case your wondering I hunted my foxhounds on hare, fox, deer and roo I tryed them on pig but they were pretty useless giving tongue on the trail of a boar just drove them away. Which ment when they did stop a boar i
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Nice type you have their mate. In the long history of working terriers and the breeding of worker to worker you cant tell me either lakelands or jacks are pure and have not been added to one anothers lines over the years. where would the the white in the lakelank come from if not.
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Thanks Kiwi This Idea is still at the thinking about stage and I havnt totally given up on the terrier I have had smoothfoxterrier and I would say they were simular to what i have read about Jadg terries and they had the advantage of being to big to go to ground. All I know is I wont be chasing a show bred type. Let us know how you get on with the pig hunt. steve
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Pops the reasons you gave above are exactly the same as why the EBT became the dog of choise out here in the 70's and 's They were every where and could be picked up relitively cheaply. As we like dogs that can find and catch their own pigs which means you can keep less dogs the EBT had its limitations and they became the base breed for many a good pig dog line, and were crossed with just about every thing from mastifs to greyhounds. Not all work but most do and the breed and its offspring have accounted for thousands of pigs each year since.
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Thanks for The comments all so it is really only the springer and the cocker that get used over there. I Know a girl in Qld that uses her springers to flush feral pigs. And The feild trial set have a strong following and although their dogs are kennel club registered They are not show dogs and are bred for work from workers. stevemac
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Just doing some research, I have been thinking a lot on a cover dog for working blackberry and lantana thickets to flush rabbit, hare, fox and feral pig to the running dogs. Ive have used my ridgebacks for this over the years but their not real keen on the real thick stuff. Ive thought about beagles but having owned foxhounds in the past they have a bit to much hunt for themselves for what im after,Ive thought on a terrier long and hard the problem as I see it is that the large blackberry briers can have fox dens right in the middle so A terrier would be just to easy to lose. I guess a larger
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You take your hand of your dick and relize they are dogs not machines. some are better than others and you wil only ever get out of a dog what you are prepared to put in. -
our lass wants me to get rid of me dog
stevemac replied to mickmck's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
this seems to be th way they think the world over Its a power play away of keeping control. Its time to man up a bit and grow some balls . as that girl said tell her what you want to do and dont take an greif over it. by the way my wife doesnt say no any more or Ill go get another for sure. we have 10 dogs now she does the clean up in the morning and I do the arvo and feeding. -
well done dan Glad your getting out after a few. steve
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thanks for the comments as i said ive got collars now days an this has deffinately solved the roo chasin prodbem though I dont own foxhounds anymore and the dogs I own arnt as single minded as they were. Ive had plenty of mates that have employed the big stick approach the problem I see with hounds though is they are no where near you when they decide to riot. and as a foot hunter theres no whip riding up to lay down the law. stevemac
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We have the same problem as others over seas with their hounds rioting on deer or other spieces other than the target spieces ie. Fox or hare. I was wonder what the methods are that you all employ to stop this. I use training collars these days to keep the dogs of roos and wallabys. but in days past this was a big problem. I read one time in ben Hardaways book He used to put his hounds in a barrel and spray them with deer scent as he rolled them down a slop. A bit extreme but he said cured about 70% from chasing deer and 100% from ever getting in a barrel again. lol What is all y
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Ive had the pleasue of owning 7 foxhounds the best of which were the last 2 phamtom gorgie I hunted these to for a couple of years the would run everything and anything unfortunately they were not good enough for feral pigs my youngest took them out and put them on a hog by himself , and the bitch has never been seen again the dog was picked up by a nother hunter and sold to a third person who contacted me I was pretty dishartened at his time and let him have the dog. Ive seen him a couple of times since and he is having a ball hunting a couple of days a week and still killing
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I had smooth foxterriers for about 12yrs the first one which was also the last one as well and her oldest daughter were the best ones and would hunt rat to feral pig had a good nose and plenty of hunt. the funny thing was we bought anne as a show dog for my eldest son when he was about 8 she wasn't much good at the shows wasn't fancy enough, but she was great in the bush. We had alot of fun with them but as every one else has said they were mad for a fight and weren't on the losing end to often. I havent had a terrier since but I keep toying with the idea.
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This one is Whippet X Stag. About 18 months old. The coat is not very heavy, but more than a Whippet. Thats a hansome dog that whippet /stag. bet he can put a turn or to on a jack rabbit. stevemac
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these all sounds like typical smart working dogs to me at least of the type I grew up with at least. I remember a hunt Brett and I went on about twenty klms from bretts on the other side of the sugarloaf range from were we live. we had had a great day and had accounted for several of the larger faster types we had to hunt back in those days as well as a pig, and were heading back towards the car on dark when 3 of the dogs took of the rest were already on leads. one of the dogs that went was Judy bretts red cattle bitch. over the next to hours my 2 droped out of the race and found their way bac
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[ STEVEMAC U OBVIOUSLY HAVE FAR MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I OFF THE ACD IN A WORKING ENVIROMENT. I CAN ONLY STATE WHAT MY OWN RESEARCH SHOWED FROM KALESKI & THE HOLMES & FM OWNERS OF ACD,s IN THIS COUNTRY MATE.OWNING & TRAINING AN ACD ONLY SHOWED 2 ME THAT THEY WERE NOT FOR ME & AS CHALKWARREN SAYS THEY APPEALED 2 A SMALL MINORITY & 2 ME THIS SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. SOME PEOPLE FOUND THEY SUITED THEM,SOME DID NOT. THEY NEVER DID BECOME POPULAR,YET AS FAR AS TRADITIONAL LURCHERS GO ONE ONLY HAS 2 LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF ADVERTS 4 COLLIE OR BEDLINGTON CROSSES THAT ARE OFFERED AS OPPOSE
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Engame I find this to be a very interesting coment and one that may have been made by someone that was use to hounds. As the opersite has been my experance in both a working and hunting capacities, as a young man i spent many a day on horse back retrieving semi wild cattle from the bulahdela mounting ranges. Without the natural hunting ability of the cattle dogs many bullocks and steers would have been missed as they hid in the lantana and tea tree chocked gullies and valleys of these mountain ranges. It was common to be able to sit at the bottom of the places and cast the dogs with the comman
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Australian cattle dog also known as blue or red heller some line carry long coats most have thick moderate coats Australian stumpy tail cattle dog seperate breed to above. australian Kelpie bred down from smooth collie types boarder collies reconised australian bred because of the part they have played in the australian sheep industry. working dogs have short coats pets and show dogs long coats. german collie none reconised bred of sheep dog breed down from german dogs. Australian Shepard an american breed developed from non discript sheep dogs that travele
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I'm not saying your dog's arent But over here dogs like yours are not known to be sold like the usual bull x or ridgeback.Ridgeback's were from what i have read they were used back in the day for baying large game as of nowadays this purpose is not of any use,I have seen a ridgeback rip a fox to pieces just stating there a good animal to have if used properly,Just Voicing my opinion.I have ridgebacks and use them but mainly as a guard dog. Nothing wrong with bite power of the ridgeback but on a long chase like these fellas are pulling off with their dogs on their game the stags and bull
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Mate I have owned bred and hunted ridgebacks for 30yrs. One must be carefull not to beleive what you read at best ridgebacks are finder bailers of large game . They are a bit slow for fox or hare though they have exerlent endurance and will hunt all day I use mine as finders for my staghounds when hunting on foot. They have a good hot scent nose and will uncover most game laid up for day in their seats. Stevemac
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Hey mate try www.ozziedoggers.org join the forum then go to the sighthound section that kangaroodog site is linked to this web site. I use my stags for feral pig hunting If you need any more help let me know. stevemac
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Hounds are looking fit Doc I to have a couple of bully stags what are the main differences you find between the straight stags and the bull/stag. stevemac
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I have a deer/grey cross and im very happy with her she has exerlent speed, keen eye,handles rabbit to large game and is exerlent on the finish. If you have got the country for one go for it. stevemac