that exactly my point about the ps move and kinect you can,t compare them and as with paying for subscription for playstation the way they are doing it is sneaky because you will be restricted to what you can do one there so in the end you will have to pay and ive never had a problem with my xbox and ive always prefered playstations to anything but when they bought the ps3 out i thought they were way to expensive and wernt what they were made out to be