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  1. you sound like a very nervous Chief constable, more worried about looking good than protecting the civil rights of British Citizens lawfully engaged in sport shooting. Sometimes the replies to posts just don't make sense.... How many shooters have really considered the possibility of a bullet being stuck in the barrel and know how to deal with it safely? "Looking good"... what are you talking about? "protecting civil rights...." what are you smoking? I do, however, concede to the follow up post about shooting from a vehicle, that is a fair point although the sound of the gun being
  2. All I can say is that is quite the opposite to my own experience with the .17hmr. To have had three bad guns.... the only common denominator is you (sorry), maybe you are the problem. When you say you have seen 2 different rounds lodged in two different barrels I assume you mean your own guns. I further assume that you mean the bullet partially detonated and travelled a short way down the barrel leaving the bullet in the barrel after the shell casing was ejected. Or do you mean the casing stuck in the chamber and was difficult to eject? Without clear facts this just sounds like gossip and
  3. you sound like a very nervous Chief constable, more worried about looking good than protecting the civil rights of British Citizens lawfully engaged in sport shooting. Sometimes the replies to posts just don't make sense.... How many shooters have really considered the possibility of a bullet being stuck in the barrel and know how to deal with it safely? "Looking good"... what are you talking about? "protecting civil rights...." what are you smoking? I do, however, concede to the follow up post about shooting from a vehicle, that is a fair point although the sound of the gun being
  4. Without wishing to sound complacent...... The .22LR and .17HMR are probably (I am guessing) fired in their millions and in the main by "amateur" shooters using a wide combination of rifles in various states of cleanliness and repair. They are cheap mass produced rounds using "rimfire" technology with primer distributed around the rim rather than a centrefire percussion cap. The .22LR is known for great variation in accuracy and reliability and we all know how some makes / batches are "good" in our rifles and some virtually unuseable. .17HMR ammunition, on the other hand, has pr
  5. I have never had a bullet get stuck in the barrel but cannot understand how you could fail to notice that something was wrong before risking firing another round. Surely for the bullet to fail to leave the barrel it would have to be a very muted "bang" which generated hardly any pressure as either only the primer detonated, the main charge was inadequately filled or the main charge was damp. Maybe the shooter should be more aware of what he is doing and more "tuned in" to what a "normal" shot sounds like. Yet another training / experience issue. Apart from the fun element of pl
  6. Thanks for that link Dekers, I had not seen it before and it is simple and revealing. I do get fed up with people slagging off the .17hmr and repeating the same old drivel about being blown around in the wind. Wind affects the .17hmr about half as much as either the .22LR or the .22WMR Take a look at the graph for Trajectory on that site comparing the three rounds - they say it is a 100 yard zero but clearly it is a 50 yard zero or is my brain fogging up?
  7. I use my laser rangefinder at night without too much trouble. There is normally enough light to be able to point it in the right direction and take a reading but viewing that reading is the problem, it would be nice if the display was backlit but I have not found one that is affordable with that facility. The way around that is to press the button to record the range and then by keeping the button pressed the reading is locked and held so you can point the rangefinder at something a bit brighter in the sky and then make out the distance displayed in the viewfinder. At night it is really dif
  8. theres been a problem with cracks in the necks of hmr rounds since the day it was released Download17.12.11 233a.jpg Just a few of mine, happens regularly. I have just looked through my collection of empty shell cases and there are plenty with fine splits in the neck just as Deker has found. My experience over thousands of rounds is that it has absolutely no effect. Looking at my stock of new bullets I cannot see any cracks in the necks of unfired rounds although perhaps they are there and just waiting to be opened up when the round is fired. Am I concerned... No. T
  9. I wasn't aware that there was any particular problem with .17hmr ammo. I thought the general opinion was that it is the most consistent stable and accurate rimfire ammunition that did its job admirably.
  10. Hello Slipper Please don't think me rude but you are going about this in quite the wrong way. It is up to you to choose a suitable distance to zero and then by shooting at targets at varying ranges work out the trajectory. Sometimes choose your zero based on the distance you mostly shoot at and sometimes at a point which gives you maximum range with the flattest trajectory. Go about this methodically and precisely. Measure your distances accurately. A laser rangefinder is the best way. For a .17hmr 100 yards is a good distance to zero as it shoots pretty flat from about 50 to 110 yards.
  11. I did not purchase a "kit" but separate bits. I am glad to hear that you are looking for a rod rather than a bore snake, in my opinion that is a wise move. Please add a "bore guide" to your list as I consider it to be essential and it will probably be specific to your gun, sometimes hard to find. It replaces the bolt when cleaning and ensures easier entry when pushing your rod into the chamber. Obviously always clean by pushing from chamber end, the same route the bullet takes. Your "non metal" rod will be made of metal but plastic coated. Try "Rimfire Magic" as a supplier, I am sure the
  12. Oh joy.... I do so love it when contributors get their dander up. It can be both entertaining and educational - free speech - brilliant and thank you. I must admit that when I first saw the statement by richmcgin that "most of the 22 ammo in circulation is made in one factory by CCi" it raised a bit of a smile as it is completely incorrect and that, unfortunately, is how rumours start. Quite a few years ago it was said that most .17hmr ammunition was made in one factory and at the time I had enough enthusiasm to check it out first hand and it was broadly true, tip colour was the mos
  13. Policy tends to be not to grant an open ticket on first application but varies hugely from area to area depending on the whim of the police force involved. Whether it is more lax for FAC air I do not know. The restriction is not as bad as it sounds as most farmland is already cleared for rimfire. It only becomes a problem if you want to shoot at short notice on land that you are not certain has been cleared. It seems as though there are different attitudes and procedures as far as cleared land is concerned. Before my ticket was open I would get permission from the landowner in writing (in
  14. Hello Adrian They were well considered comments which I appreciate, thank you. I cannot help but get the feeling that you are in a similar position to where I was many years ago and I had used air rifles "for ever" and it was only when a fellow air rifle user obtained his firearms licence that the penny dropped and I realised that it was both attainable and sensible. The move to proper bullets rather than pellets was a little intimidating and I applaud your caution but cannot help thinking that you are better off getting a .22lr from day one. Like so many things though, it is only an op
  15. Don't take the original as a matter of routine, it is too precious. Just carry a photo copy it can save a bit of hassle. Don't go out without some form of I.D. though as you may have to satisfy them of who you are.
  16. Not required and no point, a waste of their time and yours as long as you are satisfied that it is secure and appropriate.
  17. One more vote for the view expressed by Deker. If I could only have one it would be .22LR but much better to have both if you have the right land to require them. Les
  18. Matt_Hooks is the only one with the right answer. Spend a few hours shooting at paper targets to methodically try a variety of ammunition from your local dealer and as soon as you know which one your gun likes best buy as much of that batch as you can afford or your licence will allow. Two seemingly identical guns may react differently to the same ammunition. You have to find this out for yourself. Les
  19. Hello everyone, This is a sincerely asked question and I am not looking for an argument but can someone explain to me the point of FAC air? I have never fired FAC air. I have a Rapid .17 sub12ftlb and it is a wonderful rifle, possibly still my favourite although now only used on targets and to introduce others to shooting. Before getting my firearms licence I used it on rabbits but was frustrated by the limited range and all too often the rabbit would wriggle back into its hole before dying. Now (several years, open ticket) I have .22LR (dayscope) .22LR (night vision) and .17HMR (da
  20. I do agree with you, it is common sense, and as I said earlier I too would use my .22 or .17 to shoot an opportunistic fox but I would not shout about it and accept that there is an outside chance that it could land me in court. It would only take a complaint from one of our more sensitive members of society (bless them all) coupled with a jobsworth anti shooting police person and I could have a lot of grief.... such is life. The more we can do to avoid these possible problems the better and making sure that the wording on our licences is as foolproof as possible and genuinely covers our act
  21. I would like to think that you are right but fear that you are being rather naive. It is back to not wanting to be the "test case" in court and when society is being whipped up into a rather anti shooting frenzy I would not like to assume that the reasonable actions of the shooter would carry the weight in court that you and I might think they should. Imagine shooting and wounding a fox with a .22 and being witnessed doing so by an anti. Maybe a second shot dispatches the animal or worst still perhaps the first shot killed it but the unseen witness elaborates somewhat on what really happ
  22. Another example of how each police area has a different policy. It is interesting that the wording for DKG is "may be used to dispatch foxes" and I wonder if what they had in mind was the shooting of foxes at almost zero range while caught in a trap rather than use of the rimfire at longer distances. Things are never entirely clear and when some unfortunate person does get used as a test case they will need a fair bit of luck on their side. I did not get on too well with the heavier HMR rounds and currently use 17gr but it is always good to keep an open mind. Next time I talk to my l
  23. When I bought my CZ .22LR's I tried half a dozen different makes of ammunition and was amazed at how different they all were. In my case the Ely subs would not chamber easily and were very tight making the bolt action too stiff. CCI were shooting all over the place. Winchester subs were quite good. I found that both of my guns like the SK .22LR Subs made by Lapua and I buy 500 of these (same batch) at a time. Zeroed at 50 yards I get 1" or better groups at yards with a 4" drop. Unfortunately these rounds are slightly more expensive than most but the quality is very good. The bottom
  24. I am not speaking from first hand experience of the WMR as I have .22LR and HMR but the impression I get from this and other forums is that the WMR is a very capable round with considerable hitting power. The HMR is certainly the most accurate (superb factory loads) and for me that is the most important thing as my quarry is mainly rabbit and I need accuracy at distance (1" or better at 100+ yards). My .22LR brilliantly covers the distance to yards after which my .22 groups begin to open up too much (more than 1" is too much), that is where the HMR takes over and with that my groups are
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