Cheers Danny, I like the Lure idea definitely, currently using that method on Barracuda but not much success with Dorado, very choosey about what they want, I have a Penn 460 Slammer Live liner with me at present, also using the steel trace method for everything. I might take you up on that guided tour mate, quick learner, just don’t know the basics. I’ve dabbled with fly etc but like to remain mobile, not into sitting on my arse all day waiting......